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Combating hopelessness

Discussion in 'protest, direct action and demos' started by friendofdorothy, Jul 6, 2015.

  1. friendofdorothy

    friendofdorothy it is so much worse than Thatcherism now

    Hello new Happy person, why are you so happy? Is no one sick /unemployed/precariously housed in your family?
    Britain used to be more socialist nation post war.

    For some of us putting our families first means wanting a socialist future that might favour our families and loved ones - or at lease not impoverish them/leave them uneducated/make them homeless/ destroy them. Mr Larry are you not worried about the idea in our increasing unequal society thet those without hope won't just put up with it?
     
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  2. friendofdorothy

    friendofdorothy it is so much worse than Thatcherism now

    Thats generally how I think too - well apart from some small moments of hope things have indeed always got worse. Prepare for the worst, as I'm sure will happen.

    Hang on - stop trying to cheer me up.
     
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  3. friendofdorothy

    friendofdorothy it is so much worse than Thatcherism now

    Happy Larry - just thought Norway has been a fairly successful socialist country. They are very rich as a nation - since they invested their oil profits in a sovereign wealth fund for the investment in citizens future.
     
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  4. TopCat

    TopCat Gone away, no forwarding address

    Theresa May feels worse than you today.

    The Conservative conference was described by a Tory MP today as "having an air of decay about it".

    Take some comfort from that. :)
     
  5. Borp

    Borp remember

    Seems to me labour are gonna get in at the next election. Can't see how the tories can hang on. They haven't got enough to offer. The only thing they seem to have is 'not corbyn'. Which isn't enough.

    Obviously there's no knowing what brexit is going to bring up, but I'm not sure that's actually got much to do with who'll vote what at the next GE. Which may well be sooner than expected.

    Now whether corbyn and co can actually make a difference or not is another question. But the signs so far are pretty damn good. Labour have already changed the debate and policies.

    Surely that's something to be positive about.
    The IMMINENT* corbyn lead labour government :)

    *only half joking.
     
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  6. Happy Larry

    Happy Larry Active Member

    Norway is a country with huge resource wealth and a small population. It has been fairly successful. But as the New York Post points out regarding the Scandinavian countries:

    "There are a couple of things wrong with the Left’s romance with these countries, as Swedish analyst Nima Sanandaji notes in a recent monograph. It doesn’t fully appreciate the sources of Nordic success, or how Scandinavia has turned away from the socialism so alluring to its international admirers."
     
  7. Happy Larry

    Happy Larry Active Member

    I was born in one of the most economically depressed towns in the North of England. It grieves me that so many people are suffering there. However, I believe that those who are really in need are suffering because much of our welfare budget is wasted on those who can support themselves but, due to their sense of entitlement and socialist mentality, prefer to live off the taxpayer.
     
  8. Miss-Shelf

    Miss-Shelf Up to my tits in quilts

    Much of the welfare budget goes into landlords pockets through housing benefit
    And much housing benefit is allocated to (the landlords of) people in low paid work

    But Mr Larry knows this and is just having a bit of fun trolling about, the so and so;)
     
  9. Pac man

    Pac man Well-Known Member

    Hopelessness is me sitting here contemplating suicide all night after smashing my flat up and serioyusly considering swallouing a full packet of diazapam due to the bullying and snide games of pickmans model..flaring up my PTSD, i want my account closed. Editor read my message and shut my account down before i do something even more depressing than destroying my fucking home.
     
  10. Miss-Shelf

    Miss-Shelf Up to my tits in quilts

  11. krink

    krink I'll do it this afternoon

    As a person struggling to survive in economically depressed sunderland, fuck off Larry you cunt.
     
  12. ElizabethofYork

    ElizabethofYork Witchsmeller Pursuivant

    What can we do? Anyone?
     
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  13. Yuwipi Woman

    Yuwipi Woman Whack-A-Mole Queen

    Where are you located? It sounds like you need some immediate help. Is there a help-line you can call?

    (You should not take the opinions of posters here too seriously. We've all been here a while and sometimes its not all that friendly to newcomers. My sincere apologies.)
     
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  14. ffsear

    ffsear Well-Known Member

    Just stick her on ignore like the rest of us!
     
  15. Pac man

    Pac man Well-Known Member

    Im sorry for posting on this thread ive talked to my social worker today and im much calmer now, i think i will block the guy and take a break. Thankyou for the kind words.
     
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  16. Yuwipi Woman

    Yuwipi Woman Whack-A-Mole Queen

    I'm glad you took some action for your wellbeing. :)
     
  17. ElizabethofYork

    ElizabethofYork Witchsmeller Pursuivant

    Glad you're feeling better. Look after yourself. :thumbs:
     
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  18. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Starry Wisdom

    There seems to be a lot of misgendering going on these days...
     
  19. friendofdorothy

    friendofdorothy it is so much worse than Thatcherism now

    really did you have to follow Pac man here, ffs. Please consider the effect of your posting - I don't want your cross thread beefs here on a serious thread about hopelessness. Take your nickpicking elsewhere please.
     
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  20. friendofdorothy

    friendofdorothy it is so much worse than Thatcherism now

    Glad your social worker could help. Please do take a break and I wish you well.
     
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  21. friendofdorothy

    friendofdorothy it is so much worse than Thatcherism now

    Fed up of the conference eh? sad its over?

    like the old and the sick eh? We are a rich enough country, that used to provide a safety net to those suffering the misfortune of ill health, disability or unemployment. If its a culture of unemployment and taught helplessness that worries you may I remind you the mass unemployment of the Thatcher years started this , as Tories considered it a price 'price worth paying'. Neoliberal bosses invented euphamisms like down sizing to describe throwing a whole generation on the scrape heap. I am a tax payer and always have been but I'm not blind to whats going on. look deeper and don't beleive what you read in the Mail.
     
  22. krink

    krink I'll do it this afternoon

    I might be feeling hopeless but I will at least try to take a few Happy Larrys with me when i go!!

    *if i go ;)
     
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  23. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Please do not respond or refer to any further posts by Pac man for what I hope are rather obvious reasons. Thank you.
     
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  24. TopCat

    TopCat Gone away, no forwarding address

    Well May and Co are seemingly on board now in rooting for your happiness friendofdorothy .
    How else to explain the "nails in the Tory coffin" debacle of today?
     
  25. Happy Larry

    Happy Larry Active Member

    :)
     
  26. Happy Larry

    Happy Larry Active Member

    You obviously either didn't read or didn't understand my post :

    "I believe that those who are really in need are suffering because much of our welfare budget is wasted on those who can support themselves but, due to their sense of entitlement and socialist mentality, prefer to live off the taxpayer."

    It is the old and sick that are suffering because much of our Welfare Budget is spent on those who could get by without government aid.
     
  27. TopCat

    TopCat Gone away, no forwarding address

    Odious shit.
     
  28. Happy Larry

    Happy Larry Active Member

    Yes, especially to those who want something for nothing, to the detriment of the genuinely needy.
     
  29. Rutita1

    Rutita1 Wicked, Wicked, HYSTERICAL!

    No. This is not cool or funny or appropriate for this thread. Please stop it. Take your nasty comments to the politics section and start a thread. STOP.
     
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  30. Celyn

    Celyn Well-Known Member

    Do you imagine that people choose to be unemployed and that people have a wonderful life on £73 pet week?
     
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