Cold War Aviation Porn
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How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
Looking up EasyJet Luton/Berlin...Lots of hardcore Cold War aviation porn and a lot more at the Luftwaffenmuseum - the former RAF Gatow in Berlin:
Could this be the ultimate Cold War aircraft? A Luftwaffe Mig-29!
A squadron of brand new planes fell into Western hands at reunification.
And if you like missiles, you have a unique connection of NATO and Warsaw Pact systems side by side:
Part of the Eastern Side:
Part of the Western Side:
And lots and lots of F104-Gs in different configurations!
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
I was in Berlin a couple of months ago, why didn't I go to this......
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
Allow a full day, maybe more for Gatow - there is an amazing amount to see, spread right through the old tower and technical area, plus all the unrestored planes on the Apron. And don't do it in near 40C temperatures like I did!
Bus from Tegel to Bahnhof Zoo, then U-Bahn/S-Bahn to Rathaus Spandau/Spandau. then the 135 bus from the square terminus to the Museum - Get-off at the Kaiser's store and its a 20min walk through the new government housing estate to the gates. Get the makings of your packed lunch/picnic at Kaiser's on the way, cheap and good - museum cafe is very basic. If you keep your eyes-out, the bus also takes you right through the site of the former Spandau Prison, past the one or two buildings that remain.
The Museum isn't that well set-up for non-German speakers but as its still being developed that could have changed by now. Main displays had english translations but most didn't. Staff however were great - This is one of the few museums that really do make you welcome. I was still crippling from my foot operation and one of them offered me his pushbike to get around the site!
If you want just the Cold War stuff, veer right at the gates and head for the field of Radars - Most of Cold War stuff is to the right but you will miss a lot!
And if that's not enough, the Berlin Technikmuseum in Kreuzberg is well worth it for Aviation - Plus it has trains, cars, civil engineering, a brewery, broadcasting and other stuff!
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pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
Didn't the RAF lose one of those missiles? I'm sure I remember reading that one was not returned to the USAF when the deployment ended - The report said that at last sighting, it was a bit bent!
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
Didn't the RAF lose one of those missiles? I'm sure I remember reading that one was not returned to the USAF when the deployment ended - The report said that at last sighting, it was a bit bent!
Awkward.
"Er, Sarge.....remember that big fuck off death bomb we had strapped to the plane? Well......"
DownwardDog
Well-Known Member
The best looking Cold War Starfighters were the Marineflieger examples with the "Delphin" colour scheme and orange tip tanks.
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
IIRC they were also the ones that crashed least!
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
I may have the terrible chore of revisiting it at New Year - as there isn't any other major Aviation interest in Berlin that I've not seen - at least it won't be quite so hot!
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
We trekked out to this abandoned airfield, about an hour from Berlin Central. We couldn't stay long because my Dad wasn't able to hop the gate to get in but I reckon you'd get a few good hours wandering about if you have the time. Car rental would be advised.
Flugplatz Schönwalde: Airport left to ghosts and geese | Abandoned Berlin
Flugplatz Schönwalde: Airport left to ghosts and geese | Abandoned Berlin
dylanredefined
Not a house elf a tiger
They just nicked a Gerry Anderson design and stuck a red star on it.Sukhoi T-4 "Sotka" Soviet high speed reconnaissance, anti-ship and strategic bomber aircraft that did not proceed beyond the prototype stage.
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
I'd love to do that but despite the operations being pretty successful, I have to accept that the Arthritis has left me much less able to go clambering around the sort of places I used to. Also, disused military sites in likely sub-zero winter conditions is probably unwise for even a fully fit person!
I have the idea of visiting Kummersdorf some time though at a less inclement time of year - The local museum does a small number of escorted vehicle tours every year, visiting Sperenberg Airfield, Von Braun's pre-Peenemunde rocket research site and the remains of Diebner's Uranmaschine - a nuclear pile built for weapons research.
Mind you, the former Henkel Werke is at the end of a bus route in Oranienburg and parts of both Stakken and Johannisthal airfields are now accessible after redevelopment,but I'd prefer some real planes!
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pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
Its in Monino now - another place I intend to get to some day!
I recently secured the promise of an invitation from a couple of Russian Academics.
2hats
Dust.
There was a Thor pad fuel fire in Lincolnshire the early 60’s (which was put out with no warhead damage, reportedly). Best I know, all the rockets were returned to the US and subsequently used in tests (largely exoatmospheric Dominic/Fishbowl) or other payload (sub-)orbital launches, apart from three which went to museums (of which the above is one).Didn't the RAF lose one of those missiles? I'm sure I remember reading that one was not returned to the USAF when the deployment ended - The report said that at last sighting, it was a bit bent!
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
There is/was a detailed inventory of all the Thor bodies sent to the UK somewhere online that I read years ago - it had comments for each missile and what eventually happened to it. I'm sure I remember one was described along the lines of - "Lost, fate unknown, last seen in an RAF maintenance hangar looking bent"...!
The Buccaneer along with the Lightning and Vulcan 'scramble' are great memories of my first Finningley air show and just left me awestruck.
Fifty years ago, I can still smell the kerosene.
The show also commemorated the Fiftieth anniversary of the founding of the RAF.
Fifty years ago, I can still smell the kerosene.
The show also commemorated the Fiftieth anniversary of the founding of the RAF.
DownwardDog
Well-Known Member
Col. Robin Olds and his F-4C warhorse in SEA.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
scat lol
DownwardDog
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DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
as a military airman I'm sure he had lots of experience dumping a load on peopleOlds loved scat so much he had 28 different combat aircraft named thusly.
