Cocaine = Hardcore Global Capitalism

[Blagsta]

oh look, it's the personal attack again, with lizard topping

oh well, I'm off to advertise my cocaine business. It's a free market, apparently. Do you think editor will let me place some adverts on urban75? I could do discounts for posters.

You're not worth taking seriously Jazzz.

 

[Blagsta]

the thing is tho dudes coke is fucked up inherentlly wrong and anti human!!!

How so?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

oh look, it's the personal attack again, with lizard topping

oh well, I'm off to advertise my cocaine business. It's a free market, apparently. Do you think editor will let me place some adverts on urban75? I could do discounts for posters.

But a lot of us are saying one thing re: the meaning of 'free market', etc, and you're saying the opposite. Doesn't that tell you something.

It isn't really even a point of controversy.

 

[phildwyer]

Errrr...no. A controlled economy is one where monopolies are prevented.

No, Jazz is right. A free market is one where monopolies are prevented.

 

[Blagsta]

fuck off dwyer you knob

 

[Jazzz]

But a lot of us are saying one thing re: the meaning of 'free market', etc, and you're saying the opposite. Doesn't that tell you something.

It isn't really even a point of controversy.

you mean, you and blagsta. Ha, well, I'm outnumbered. I guess I must be wrong then.

e2a, oh support has arrived from Dwyer. Hurrah! Well this is fun. It's 2-2. And already the new arrival is being treated to some verbals from the opposition.

 

[phildwyer]

fuck off dwyer you knob

As with Jazzz, you resort immediately to personal insults, in order to cover your embarrassment at being proved wrong. And you *are* wrong, Blagsta. A free market prevents monopolies. That is basic economics, which you evidently do not understand. Any more than you understand about drugs. For you were the one who claimed that a "speedball" is a mixture of speed and heroin. Along with many other absurdities too numerour to list here. You are in short a cretin, a moron, and a complete ignoramus. You would be best advised to leave this thread now, before you make an even bigger fool of yourself.

 

[Blagsta]

dwyer, people take you as seriously as people take Jazzz

 

[phildwyer]

dwyer, people take you as seriously as people take Jazzz

Go away, Blagsta. You have already been humiliated enough on your specialist subject of drugs. I would feel guilty about subjecting you to the same treatment with regard to economics, a topic on which even the miniscule amount of information you have managed to glean about drugs continues to elude you. So run along while you have the chance.

 

[Crispy]

Could you humiliate me on space exploration next Phil? I feel left out.
(You could do architecture as well, but I'm a little rusty and could go down to a surprise sucker punch)

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

dwyer, people take you as seriously as people take Jazzz

Actually, I think he's right. Jazz is dead wrong imo concerning economic theory, but why post pictures of lizards about the guy? It's as if you get frustrated with his continued disagreement, and start yelling profanities at him.

 

[phildwyer]

Actually, I think he's right. Jazz is dead wrong imo concerning economic theory

Actually he's not Johnny. A free market, by definition, does not allow the formation of monopolies. I find a good rule in such matters is to listen to what Blagsta says, then believe the precise opposite.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Actually he's not Johnny. A free market, by definition, does not allow the formation of monopolies. I find a good rule in such matters is to listen to what Blagsta says, then believe the precise opposite.

How can a free market stop the formation of monopolies? From what I've read, that seems to be predicated on the good will of the capitalists. Yeah, right.

 

[Jazzz]

If someone decides to open a clothes shop on the high street, they'll find that there's laws on their side to protect free trade.

But drugs markets, thanks to prohibition, will tend to produce control structures where 'barons' will control the supply to a geographical territory - woe betide those who try to muscle in.

So on the one hand governments are protecting a free market, on the other - well they're probably taking the bribes for it not to be. In fact they may well grant the monopoly to themselves, doesn't the CIA control the heroin industry?

 

[Crispy]

"free" != "un-regulated"

 

[Jazzz]

"free" != "un-regulated"

Have you tried putting your cocaine dealing service in yellow pages?

Find out if it's 'regulated'

 

[Blagsta]

Actually, I think he's right. Jazz is dead wrong imo concerning economic theory, but why post pictures of lizards about the guy? It's as if you get frustrated with his continued disagreement, and start yelling profanities at him.

It's childish I know, but its to illustrate my complete contempt for anything Jazzz has to say.

 

[Blagsta]

doesn't the CIA control the heroin industry?

*insert picture of lizard here*

While the CIA has had some complicity in the heroin and cocaine trade, they do not run it.

 

[Crispy]

Have you tried putting your cocaine dealing service in yellow pages?

Find out if it's 'regulated'

I didn't say it was.

In fact, I was agreeing with you!

 

[Tricky Mickey]

I reckon the coke trade is a top example of unfettered globalised capitalism, with goods leaving a poor country - following worker exploitation and environmental damage - to be sold at a premium to economically advantaged consumers in the developed world.

It just looks like a state-run industry because the colombian cartels have as much money as many small states.

 

[Crispy]

What I'm agreeing with is that a 'free' market doesn't mean one with no rules or regulations, it means one where the seller and the buyer are on an equal footing with respects to information and freedom. Various forms of government intervention can give power to the buyer or the seller, and the theory is that it is these imbalances that cause the malaises of capitalism - eg. monopolies.

 

[Jazzz]

I didn't say it was.

In fact, I was agreeing with you!

hurrah!

 

[Wolveryeti]

Pete the Greek = Hardcore Idiot Porn.

 

[Pete the Greek]

Pete the Greek = Hardcore Idiot Porn.

up yours, ya borin' lefty

 

[Dandred]

The drug use predates the laws.

All crime predates all laws. Do you have a point here?

That's why laws exist..........