Discussion in 'London and the South East' started by editor, Oct 22, 2018.
It's going to be frightful. Security guard encircled fun.
About Coal Drops Yard
I was up there in the summer, a couple of shops had opened already. It has some nice architectural features, but fuck everything about the rest of the development.
It was much nicer when the old red star was there. Lots of fun to be had sending sand and bricks to Scotland on the account of a firm who'd fucked you about.
Its a shopping centre. What exactly is it that annoys you?
Didn't Bagleys use to be there?
Ugh I feel old looking at all that...
That roof is really gimmicky.
Looks pretty cool in situ.
As big new developments go I've got to say the Kings Cross development isn't too bad. I find myself there from time to time and there are lots of nice public areas and I've not had any issue from the security while having beers, smoking a joint etc in the park bits. I'd be curious to know which bits are actually public land vs private development. Are there any maps about detailing it?
No, I doubt it.
Not a shopping centre. A shopping 'experience'
Privately Owned Public Spaces – Greenspace Information for Greater London
some of which is visualised in this Guardian article:
Revealed: the insidious creep of pseudo-public space in London
(yellow is buildings under construction at time of article)
Oh I didn't know about this. Thank you crisps.
I totally understand all of the arguments about pseudo public space. However Granary Square actually works better as a public space than some genuinely public spaces. I saw this in effect this summer when the fountains are on and people came from all over the city treating as a bit of mini day out by the (not) seaside.
seems a little late in the day to be bemoaning the gentrification of Kings Cross?
Not a bad area if you enjoy paying more than a fiver for a beer
Review here: diamond geezer
Good quote: "...it's more a magnet for the over-moneyed to enjoy consuming the unnecessary"
Anything that has turned into a shopping district rather than what it was in the late 90's early 00's, annoys me too.
I was quite interested to see Coal Drops Yard when it opened – working in built environment media I’d heard a lot about it so was keen to see what it turned out like.
The space looks good, but feels horrid IMO. Has all the problems of ‘private public space’ – went on a hot day and it had loads of empty space, but no one hanging out as you can’t drink outside of designated spaces. Was with kids, hoping to find some ice-cream and it felt very family-unfriendly – one nicely-positioned bar space didn’t allow kids in, tried a coffee place hoping it would do at least smoothies or juices or something – no dice, it Only Did Coffee, Thank You Very Much. The whole thing would have been more polite to have a ‘no children allowed’ sign, rather than passive aggressively not catering, and we literally didn’t even get to have a juice (ice cream vans on Granary Square were sold out – beware of trying to find icecream in Kings X!).
Shops were nice to look at but super pricey – felt like they were all aimed at those non-existent wealthy 30-somethings you see on hoardings for new developments called things like ‘Unity’.
I predict them ending up filling central space with lots of little pop up stalls and stuff before falling into a financial black hole within a few years because I can’t see this place has a sustainable market. The undead spirits of Bagley's and The Cross etc will have their revenge.
There's already a thread on this so I've got a-mergin'
Went there last summer to meet a mate (her suggestion) found it a bit soulless , had a drink in a Mexican-y bar - a bottle of beer that was brewed in Greenwich cost about £7 ffs - we didn't linger found somewhere else in Kings X proper.
Meantime? They saw you coming. It was 3 quid a pint at the Havering show this year.
Yeah, mainly families from Somers Town with their kids. Central St Martins tried to ban them doing this but gave up quickly. Best bit about the development. The canal is a nicer walk these days too
West for a meal there with some ex colleagues. Agree its a horrid soulless empty looking corporate space with barely anything interesting worth going down there for.
Load of bollocks.
when i've been down there i have always found leaving the place a great pleasure and almost worth a trip there to experience
no, it had a Mexican-y name
could have been Meantime Tijuana Pale Ale I guess
We ended up at The Betjiman in St Pancras Station
Granary Square is ok as at least it is accessible and is fun for kids in summer, and you don't feel like you have to spend lots of money to justify being there. It feels like it is actually used by local community too.
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