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editor said:
I've seen enough TV games to know that the atmosphere at a NHL hockey game is nothing like a British football game

I'll agree that it's different in one major aspect: at our sporting events, whole sections of the crowd aren't preoccupied with beating the crap out of one another.

Maybe a little canned music would lighten the mood a bit.
 
in all seriousness is this being done because a lot of these games are now televised via digital?

It just seems like such a strage practice to adopt consdiering the general reception it get's in the uk is usual akin to a horseshit sandwich.

or is it that the premiere league is going multi national and that we are going to see the fullscale NFL type commercialisation of football.
 
Hockey fans:

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Soccer fans:

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Johnny Canuck2 said:
I'll agree that it's different in one major aspect: at our sporting events, whole sections of the crowd aren't preoccupied with beating the crap out of one another.
You really haven't for much of a clue about football have you Johnny?

But seeing as you seem so insistent that "whole sections of the crowd" are violent thugs and are posting up scrapping morons as examples of the average fan, why don't you toddle off and back that up with some stats?

There was something like 34 million people attending the top 4 English Football League and Cup games last season.

Now why don't you go off and find out what percentage of that massive total were arrested for acts of violence at games?

And I'll just sit back and watch you make a prize puck of yourself.

:D
 
editor said:
You really haven't for much of a clue about football have you Johnny?

But seeing as you seem so insistent that "whole sections of the crowd" are violent thugs and are posting up scrapping morons as examples of the average fan, why don't you toddle off and back that up with some stats?

There was something like 34 million people attending the top 4 English Football League and Cup games last season.

Now why don't you go off and find out what percentage of that massive total were arrested for acts of violence at games?

And I'll just sit back and watch you make a prize puck of yourself.

:D

I'm sure that lots of soccer fans are just mom and pop type folks, but in the eyes of the world, the british soccer fan has no shirt on, a cross of st george painted somewhere prominently on his body, and is being refused entry into some european country, on the grounds that he's a violent fuckwit.

This may not be the truth, but you know how it can be with stereotypes.

For the world the words 'soccer hooligan' are preceded by the word 'english'.

But I know it's not just you. South Americans are notorious for crowd violence etc. This is all just foreign to us: we go to games to watch the game.

As for it being the greatest game, I'll grant you that more people watch it in the world than any other, but then, more people eat rice in the world than any other food. I think rice is pretty boring, too.;)
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
I'll agree that it's different in one major aspect: at our sporting events, whole sections of the crowd aren't preoccupied with beating the crap out of one another.

Maybe a little canned music would lighten the mood a bit.

Nor are they at about 99.9999999% of sarker games. You really shouldn't dwell in such lame stereotypes.
 
Johnnycannuck, people attending england matches are a very very very very small proportion of total people attending sarker matches. Of those england fans, those involved in violence are another very small percentage. You fucking pranet.
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
I'm sure that lots of soccer fans are just mom and pop type folks, but in the eyes of the world, the british soccer fan has no shirt on, a cross of st george painted somewhere prominently on his body, and is being refused entry into some european country, on the grounds that he's a violent fuckwit.
Just when I thought you couldn't get any more clueless you knock this one out!

I'm feeling kind, so here's a clue to guide you out of the darkness of your stupidity: "the british soccer fan has no shirt on, a cross of st george painted somewhere..."

Now think carefully. Go on. I'm sure you can work this one out.

Oh, and have you got the stats for the amount of football fans arrested out of last year's 34 million total are you just going to continue blindly repeating your daft bigotry here?
 
editor said:
Just when I thought you couldn't get any more clueless you knock this one out!

I'm feeling kind, so here's a clue to guide you out of the darkness of your stupidity: "the british soccer fan has no shirt on, a cross of st george painted somewhere..."

Now think carefully. Go on. I'm sure you can work this one out.

Oh, and have you got the stats for the amount of football fans arrested out of last year's 34 million total are you just going to continue blindly repeating your daft bigotry here?


I'm telling you what the perceived stereotype is. 'English', with 'cross of st george'.

This is the cross of st george, isn't it, or am I wrong about that?

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"If you come near me again, I'll cry!"




You see, you've got it all backward. The players of soccer are a bunch of pantywaists, and the fans are all fighting.

In hockey, the players beat each other up, and the paying fans are nice and docile.

You need to get hold of the concept of catharsis.
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
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"He touched me! Wahhhh.....!"
I understand you're keen to divert the discussion away from your last set of laughable clangers, but is this really the best you can come up with?

So, have you looked up the figures for violence at football games or are you going to regale in your ignorance a little longer?
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
I'm telling you what the perceived stereotype is. 'English', with 'cross of st george'.

This is the cross of st george, isn't it, or am I wrong about that?

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Someone educate the poor fellow!
 
editor said:
So, have you looked up the figures for violence at football games or are you going to regale in your ignorance a little longer?

I you want to educate me, I'll read anything you've got, but I can assure you that the violence figures at english soccer matches, are way higher than anything that we get over here at any of our sporting matches, except maybe for WWF wrestling.

Which brings us back to the value of music......:)
 
Football hooliganism has changed significantly since the Taylor Report of 1990. All-seater stadiums, 'Football Intelligence' and Closed Circuit Television in particular have meant that incidents of violence inside football grounds (particularly in the Premiership) are rare. In addition, arrests for football-related crimes have reduced dramatically since the late 1980's whilst attendances have risen. However, this does not mean that football hooliganism has reduced. Much football disorder has been 'pushed' from the stadium itself to other meeting places, where it is better organised and has the potential to be more violent. This means that violence will rarely be reported and that the Police will be less able to control it and make arrests.

There are two different phenomena that are called 'hooliganism'. First is the spontaneous and usually low-level disorder that takes place in and around stadia and when english teams travel abroad. In the UK, this is relatively rare considering the number of supporters attending matches. However, abroad, English fans have often been involved in disorder (e.g. Marseilles 1998, Charleroi 2000, Stuttgart 2006). Often the extent of this disorder is exaggerated by excessive media reporting and in many cases English supporters are the victims of attacks by local fans/police rather than the aggressors.

Second is the more serious disorder caused by hooligan 'firms' in the UK. Domestically this is still a huge problem, with most football clubs having groups of 'risk supporters' who wish to fight rival firms. UK police have to deal with the problem of organised firms trying to confront each other on a regular basis, although the disorder is rarely reported (due to the lack of coverage of incidents) and as it usually takes place far from the ground, 'normal' fans do not tend to be directly affected by it. One example of high-profile disorder between firms (which was reported), was the clash between Everton and Manchester United 'hooligans' in 2005.

http://www.liv.ac.uk/footballindustry/hooligan.html
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
I you want to educate me, I'll read anything you've got, but I can assure you that the violence figures at english soccer matches, are way higher than anything that we get over here at any of our sporting matches, except maybe for WWF wrestling.
Thing is, that wasn't what you were claiming, was it?

Need I remind you again or will you learn to stop digging?

I used to hear this kind of clueless, knee-jerk tabloid bullshit about 'most football fans are thugs' from right wing radio jocks and Tory politicians when I was running the footie vs CJA campaign.

And the facts pwned them every time.
 
I went to a NHL game and was bored out of my brains to be honest. Couldn't see the ball.
 
editor said:
Thing is, that wasn't what you were claiming, was it?

.

I'm claiming two things. One: the worldwide perception of english soccer fans, is that of a bunch of violent fuckwits. Truth; that's what the perception is.

Two: whatever your level of game associated violence is, it dwarfs similar figures for sporting events in NA, where there is no tradition of inter-team fan violence etc.
 
firky said:
I went to a NHL game and was bored out of my brains to be honest. Couldn't see the ball.

That's because there is no ball. It's a puck. If you were looking for a ball, you were bound to be disappointed.
 
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