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climate camp mass action is on!

Fruitloop said:
what do you imagine people should be doing? Is it good enough to just say 'well, I don't want to eat stuff that's flown in daily from Kenya, but shucks, that's the way it is'. It just seems like yet another way to abdicate responsibility to me.

choosing to buy expensive fruit that's not flown in, or growing your own food, is another way to abdicate responsibility - from our collective responsibility to drastically change our society. Whatever way you look at it, ten thousand, or even half a million people (do even that many vote Green?) making a consumer choice is not going to cut the 90% CO2 reduction mustard.

We need to change the way our society produces things. Taking aim at the corporations and the transport industry (among others) is a good start on this, which is why I broadly support the climate camp.
 
A quick interjection:

- Low Cost airlines are a major factor in the growth of aviation.

- LoCos are not driven by the rich

- Equally, measures to constrain LoCos will not prevent the budget constrained from taking an overseas holiday with a flight. Charter flights + package holiday = affordable trip. Charter however doesn't service frivolous trips so well.

i.e. the attempt to make this a class issue (either way, "the rich fly too much!"... vs... "if you make flying expensive, poor people can't have a holiday")... is an irrelevent diversion. If you make Scheduled flying expensive, people can still take a holiday beyond the reach of the train.
 
paolo999 said:
i.e. the attempt to make this a class issue (either way, "the rich fly too much!"... vs... "if you make flying expensive, poor people can't have a holiday")... is an irrelevent diversion.

only if you think class is an irrelevant part of our society, which it's not.
 
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