Clarke has gone!

[magneze]

Apparently ...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4975938.stm

"Charles Clarke has been axed as home secretary as Tony Blair seeks to regain the initiative after a night of losses in English local elections.

Details of the rejig are still emerging but Jack Straw is to be moved from the Foreign Office Commons leader Geoff Hoon will be the new Europe minister. "

Certainly brightened up my friday!

 

[magneze]

 

[Fruitloop]

Great news. Hopefully it will be at least a minor spanner in the works of Tory Blairs plan to turn Britain into a giant panopticon.

 

[Barking_Mad]

Another clone will be along shortly. Same shit, different face.

 

[magneze]

Well I thought we couldn't do worse than Blunkett, then we got Clarke. Surely he's the low point?!

 

[nino_savatte]

Of course this doesn't mean Blair will go anytime soon. He will have to be pushed.

 

[magneze]

This result makes it more likely that he'll get pushed though IMO. The good Tory showing will be panicing many in Labour.

 

[magneze]

Well I thought we couldn't do worse than Blunkett, then we got Clarke. Surely he's the low point?!

Oh good. John Reid. A new low.

 

[gentlegreen]

Of course this doesn't mean Blair will go anytime soon. He will have to be pushed.

I notice the reports of what Frank Dobson said last night have been edited - I'm sure he said it was the Titanic's officers that need changing.

.

 

[gentlegreen]

Oh good. John Reid. A new low.

Maybe he'll admit to actually having inhaled ....

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[nino_savatte]

Bloody hell, Reid as Home Secretary. He will certainly be the most hard-line Home Sec since Blunkett and, indeed, Whitelaw (remember Diplock Courts?).

 

[ViolentPanda]

Bloody hell, Reid as Home Secretary. He will certainly be the most hard-line Home Sec since Blunkett and, indeed, Whitelaw (remember Diplock Courts?).

I dunno. One thing about the HO mandarins is that they're not easily bullied, even Blunkett found that out pretty quickly and learned to "go with the flow" at the HO. If Reid pushes too hard he'll find his every step there landing him in shit.

 

[nino_savatte]

I dunno. One thing about the HO mandarins is that they're not easily bullied, even Blunkett found that out pretty quickly and learned to "go with the flow" at the HO. If Reid pushes too hard he'll find his every step there landing him in shit.

I hope so, nothing would please me more than to see that bastard out on his ear!

 

[slaar]

Sad state of affairs when unelected civil servants and Lords are the bulwark against the erosion of civil liberties by elected politicians. But I agree it's a good thing that they're there right now!

 

[e19896]

Another clone will be along shortly. Same shit, different face.

Agreed if you have been in observation of all this you guessed following the locals Clark would be the one to get the shit for the fuck up of this Labour Goverment all i can say at the age of 40 i have never voted.

There is more good news Sheffield green Party now have two counicllors working with locall people on locall issuse grass roots politics.

Pissed of at the same time about The BNP and perhaps the left needs to understand this is where sectarian politics leads us.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa

e19896

 

[Fingers]

I was sharing a lift with Charles Clark about 10 mins after the news broke on the BBC, he was looking very flustered, sweaty and was doing a lot of mumbling to himself

 

[TAE]

sorry - double post

 

[TAE]

I'm glad Clarke is gone but ...

... the prospect of Becket telling us that we must bomb Iran, and having Reid explaining to us that we may not protest against it, does not fill me with joy.

 

[Lock&Light]

... the prospect of Becket telling us that we must bomb Iran, and having Reid explaining to us that we may not protest against it, does not fill me with joy.

Becket will not be telling us that, so Reid will not have to explain.

 

[Genghis Cohen]

Just like blindgit, he went as soon as the right said jump, he should have gone because he hated freedom, it was obvious he was incompetent when he wanted yet ANOTHER supposed 'terrorism' bill on top of the two/three NL had already passed but the right saw nothing wrong with that, bunch of cunts.

Wouldnt surprise me if dr 'of toothpaste' reid gets another legislative blank cheque.

 

[Fingers]

I think he went because Blair sacked him but the official memo circulating round the Home Office does not quite put it that way

 

[TAE]

Becket will not be telling us that, so Reid will not have to explain.

I hope you are right - but I suspect they will in time.

 

[Bear]

Well I thought we couldn't do worse than Blunkett, then we got Clarke. Surely he's the low point?!

Blunkett was worse than Clarke.

 

[Lock&Light]

Blunkett was worse than Clarke.

I hope no one has forgotton how bad Howard was! By far, the worst of all.

 

[Fingers]

he was the dude who tried to ban gatherings of people and stop them listening to 'music with repetitive beats'

 

[Nemo]

I was sharing a lift with Charles Clark about 10 mins after the news broke on the BBC, he was looking very flustered, sweaty and was doing a lot of mumbling to himself

at that but at John 'oh fuck not health' Reid being his replacement. And L&L, I haven't forgotten how bad Howard was, but I can't immediately recall when it was he proposed the abolition of Habeas Corpus or trial by jury.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I hope no one has forgotton how bad Howard was! By far, the worst of all.

Having worked at the Home Office when he was Home Secretary, and lived through the Derek Lewis farrago, I have to agree. Straw was an ineffectual arse, Blunkett was way more authoritarian than he needed to be, and Clarke was NOT (according to friends) on top of his brief, but Howard was a swine, and unfortunately a malicious buck-passing crowd-pleasing swine at that.

 

[ViolentPanda]

at that but at John 'oh fuck not health' Reid being his replacement. And L&L, I haven't forgotten how bad Howard was, but I can't immediately recall when it was he proposed the abolition of Habeas Corpus or trial by jury.

Actually, Howard did take a poke at trial by jury, after reading the conclusions of a report Kenneth Clarke commissioned on the subject. He pretty much got the ball rolling on the whole vexed question.

 

[Nemo]

ball rolling

It'd be interesting to hear him say those words.

 

[ViolentPanda]

It'd be interesting to hear him say those words.

At least you haven't been unlucky enough to be sitting at a desk when the twat did one of his tours around his fiefdom. We're talking real tongue-biting stuff trying not to laugh at his verbal manglings (his accent was actually worse when the press weren't around and he wasn't making an effort) and a good 5 minutes of hysterical laughter after he left your department to plague someone else.