Civilization IV
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Kid_Eternity
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Aint that nice, Play.com are selling it for £18 (when it's released that is)!
Bob_the_lost
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The trailer is moderately amusing there.Kid_Eternity said:
never realised the existence of alpha c or 3 or 4; i used to play the original on my amiga for hours, but never got the second one being put off by the diagonal layout and concerned that if i did get into it again it would take over my time.
was alpha c back to up and down? what was the score with it, was it on another planet?
was alpha c back to up and down? what was the score with it, was it on another planet?
Good Intentions
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I think Civ 3's main flaw was the interface. It did seriously lack atmosphere, but in the end the interface was what irritated me the most.
But it had culture, and thereafter I couldn't play any other Civ game, no matter how great Alpha Centauri is.
Civ3 had a lot going for it that I, who had finished Alpha Centauri at Transcend (played pretty much non-stop for a long-weekend, started at 16h00 on Friday, ended 02h00 on Monday
) started my first game at Regent level, and it whooped my isolationist ass. Civ3 is a lot smarter.
But it had culture, and thereafter I couldn't play any other Civ game, no matter how great Alpha Centauri is.
Civ3 had a lot going for it that I, who had finished Alpha Centauri at Transcend (played pretty much non-stop for a long-weekend, started at 16h00 on Friday, ended 02h00 on Monday
) started my first game at Regent level, and it whooped my isolationist ass. Civ3 is a lot smarter.Bob_the_lost
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It's well you ask, in my day you'd spend the evening listening to beethoven on the gramaphone, none of this drum and bass rubbish...neilh said:
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libraries + catherdrals etcneilh said:
Bob_the_lost
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In civ 3 you get culture, if you've got bugger all culture your city can only use the directly adjacent squares for food etc. Once you get a tiny bit then you get the normal adjacent + 8 squares, and as you get more culture the effects spread further. It also helps define where your nation starts and ends, you can't build cities in someone else's area of effect etc.
It's a very nice touch.
It's a very nice touch.
Good Intentions
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It's like AC's borders, but all grown up.
The more culture you have, the further away from your cities your borders stretch (each town has individual culture and individual borders).Use it to steal resources from your opponents, by building a town as close as possible to the resource and making it expand as quickly as possible, until the square thinks more of your culture than your opponents, and becomes part of your territory. Also, inside of your territory your opponents can't use your roads, and vice versa. You can take territory by a solid front of military units, but I've never done so - not my style.
Above and beyond territory, the higher your total culture, the more people will resist foreign invaders (and resisters are way harder to deal with than Civ2 partisans) and the less people will resist you.
The more culture you have, the further away from your cities your borders stretch (each town has individual culture and individual borders).Use it to steal resources from your opponents, by building a town as close as possible to the resource and making it expand as quickly as possible, until the square thinks more of your culture than your opponents, and becomes part of your territory. Also, inside of your territory your opponents can't use your roads, and vice versa. You can take territory by a solid front of military units, but I've never done so - not my style.
Above and beyond territory, the higher your total culture, the more people will resist foreign invaders (and resisters are way harder to deal with than Civ2 partisans) and the less people will resist you.
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you dont have to use spies to incite a revolt in nieghbouring cities
if a foreign city is right by yours, and you have MASSIVE culture, they'll want to become your citizens anyway
if a foreign city is right by yours, and you have MASSIVE culture, they'll want to become your citizens anyway
Kid_Eternity
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Bob_the_lost said:
Yep!
Juice Terry
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Personally I don't bother with culture any more, on Emperor and above the best way to keep up with the AI is total war. Ethnically cleanse any cities you capture through starvation to take care of any resistors, or even better go to war with a bunch of settlers in tow and raize and build new cities as you go.
Psychonaut
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On the higher lower levels, it seemed to run to the space ship victory, higher up the game seemed to finish 'UN leader', so id quit all research and generate wealth - when the voting comes, go back one turn and donate everything to the most friendly civs- this makes them vote for you.
To win on the higest setting (before Conquests/PTW came out) I had to run the smallest map, low barbarians, only 2 opponents, middling geography. Total military focus. Keep restarting to get a good start position. Took fucking ages.
To win on the higest setting (before Conquests/PTW came out) I had to run the smallest map, low barbarians, only 2 opponents, middling geography. Total military focus. Keep restarting to get a good start position. Took fucking ages.
Juice Terry
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I can pretty much guarrantee domination victory on Emperor level thesedays, provided I have a decent start position, ie bonus food and a luxury near to the capital. I go for large or huge map with default climate and topography. The key is to not build anything but workers/settlers/units during the bc period and make sure you develop the right squares first. Build cities with only 2/3 squares between them. Research straight to Philosophy to get the bonus tech and then on to Republic, revolution and stay with Rep til the end. The only wonders I bother building are Adam Smiths, Theory of Evolution and Hoover Dam. The two TOE free techs slingshot you through Atomic Theory and Electricity and you can't fail to get Hoover Dam then which makes victory inevitable. mwahahathe B said:
Hmm, maybe my failing is that I bother with The Great Library... otherwise, my strategy is actually pretty similar on the big maps.
Asking for a food bonus AND a luxury is cheeky though
Next you'll want to guarentee you get some iron too 
On small maps, deity for example, I just play as the Babylonians and rinse them all with my Bowman and then Swordsmen when they become available.
Alternatively, Persians and Immortals.
On a not so small map, Indians and Elephants often do the trick too.
Asking for a food bonus AND a luxury is cheeky though
Next you'll want to guarentee you get some iron too On small maps, deity for example, I just play as the Babylonians and rinse them all with my Bowman and then Swordsmen when they become available.
Alternatively, Persians and Immortals.
On a not so small map, Indians and Elephants often do the trick too.
Kid_Eternity
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I hated playing on big maps in Civ3 bored me shitless, preferred the medium and smaller ones...
Bob_the_lost
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If i could garantee any resource then i'd be wanting coal more than iron.
Pickman's model
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are you a yankee imperialist?the B said:Agreed.
And iron is more important than coal. You'll never make it to the point where coal matters if you didn't have iron beforehand.
Railroads require iron and coal
Kid_Eternity
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Pickman's model said:
This is the games forum PM not P+P!
Kid_Eternity
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Yep and tempting it is too!
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