CIRCA - crap/not crap?

[revol68]

d&g? dungarees?

Dolce & Gabana or Desperate & Grasping as they are now daubed by those in the know.

about as cool as FCUK and Von Dutch.

 

[Pickman's model]

Dolce & Gabana or Desperate & Grasping as they are now daubed by those in the know.

about as cool as FCUK and Von Dutch.

i try not to associate with anyone wearing anything like that.

 

[revol68]

I wasn't saying you were middle class.

But as far as this destruction stuff goes at demos, it just doesn't carry much respect from me. Not when the groups involved contain people that aren't really on the shitty end of stick socially, or economically, and they knows it.

Not to say that I respect poor people who destroy objects for the sake of it, as it seems a lot of these so called anarchists do so. Working in communities by setting up decent independant advice on housing and benefits has been one of the kinds of things I have seen done by middle class radicals. And that is worthwhile, and I admire it, considering my past experiences in a single parent family on benefits. Not wearing daft clothing and breaking up obviously symbolic property beacuse it is "hardcore". As much as it might be a buzz, and just fun, it isn't going to to do anything of any long term worth for working people.

there's no disagreement there, but I don't think middle class people should be seeking to do things for the working class, rather they should just be honest and fight on issues that actually involve them, much more revolutionary than being a martyr to someone elses struggles and a lot less patronising.

As a young person with no responsibilites I was able to indulge myself in a bit of Blac Bloc nonsense, the problem arises when people forget the relatively previleged (notfinancial or class) position they find themselves in and universalise their experiance onto the rest of the class.

Anyway the whole summit hopping thing is useless.

 

[revol68]

i try not to associate with anyone wearing anything like that.

yes but you probably hang around people who think bomber jackets and class war baseball caps make them working class.

 

[Tatiana]

i try not to associate with anyone wearing anything like that.

A few of the lads at work have worn FCUK. I am not going to snub someone because of that. I own an adidas rucksack

 

[Tatiana]

yes but you probably hang around people who think bomber jackets and class war baseball caps make them working class.

But, I do wear a donkey jacket. Mind you I am not in any radical social/political organisation.

 

[revol68]

A few of the lads at work have worn FCUK. I am not going to snub someone because of that. I own an adidas rucksack

i wouldn't snub them, but i wouldn't sit next to them in the pub, not cause of any ole lifestylist shite about brands but purely cos it looks like shite.

 

[Tatiana]

Some of them are a good laugh on a night out.

 

[revol68]

Some of them are a good laugh on a night out.

they could be Peter Kay but i still wouldn't sit with them in FCUK shirts, I mean come on maybe in 1998 but.....

 

[Pickman's model]

yes but you probably hang around people who think bomber jackets and class war baseball caps make them working class.

don't they?

 

[revol68]

don't they?

nope.

Infact some of them wear nice clothes and are even known to eat out everynow and again.

"Armed with the news that the working class don't dress like 1980's football casuals and dine on a diet of Crispy pancakes and FishFingers, the Class War Federation made great theoretical developments, relenting their brutal war against bruschetta bread, the word "What" and the Number 73 bus."

If only....

 

[Tatiana]

they could be Peter Kay but i still wouldn't sit with them in FCUK shirts, I mean come on maybe in 1998 but.....

My donkey jacket is sooooo 84 but .......

 

[Pickman's model]

nope.

Infact some of them wear nice clothes and are even known to eat out everynow and again.

but not at the evil 15 restaurant, i'd expect, with their extortionately priced beans on toast.

 

[revol68]

My donkey jacket is sooooo 84 but .......

Donkey JAckets carried on well into the eighties but they were at their zenith in the Winter of Discontent, the heavy material hung on the shoulders like the collective alienation of thousands of years labour, the wieght giving the posture a down trodden look, it fixed the gaze at the ground, almost in knowing preparation for the wrath of Thatcher. The donkey jacket is the proletarian in his most alienated form.

 

[Pickman's model]

Donkey JAckets carried on well into the eighties but they were at their zenith in the Winter of Discontent, the heavy material hung on the shoulders like the collective alienation of thousands of years labour, the wieght giving the posture a down trodden look, it fixed the gaze at the ground, almost in knowing preparation for the wrath of Thatcher. The donkey jacket is the proletarian in his most alienated form.

it's a pity that private eye is unlikely to place that in their "pseuds corner".

 

[Tatiana]

Donkey JAckets carried on well into the eighties but they were at their zenith in the Winter of Discontent, the heavy material hung on the shoulders like the collective alienation of thousands of years labour, the wieght giving the posture a down trodden look, it fixed the gaze at the ground, almost in knowing preparation for the wrath of Thatcher. The donkey jacket is the proletarian in his most alienated form.

I never thought of myself in that way. But mind you, some middle class types do give me the sent to coventry treatment sometimes. One occasion was in the local public library.

 

[Top Dog]

nope.

Infact some of them wear nice clothes and are even known to eat out everynow and again.

"Armed with the news that the working class don't dress like 1980's football casuals and dine on a diet of Crispy pancakes and FishFingers, the Class War Federation made great theoretical developments, relenting their brutal war against bruschetta bread, the word "What" and the Number 73 bus."

If only....

 

[Taxamo Welf]

they could be Peter Kay but i still wouldn't sit with them in FCUK shirts, I mean come on maybe in 1998 but.....

what do you think of people who wear fred perry and ben sherman then...?
Timeless surely?

 

[revol68]

what do you think of people who wear fred perry and ben sherman then...?
Timeless surely?

Ben Sherman and Fred Perry are very context specific, you got to make it look interesting or you might just look like an ole punk whose past the leather jacket and mohawk days.

But ultimately I find the Ben Sherman to restrictive in it's overly masculine aesthetic, Fred Perry on the other hand spans a spectrum of styles from OCesque geek chic ala Seth, Arthouse indie ala Bloc Party, postmodern mod ala Ordinary Boys, in less desirable outfits the fred perry can signify preppy prick, or plain old laddish wanker.

 

[Taxamo Welf]

well than fuck for that.

...

what about harrington combat jackets?

 

[Tatiana]

Tartan lined.

 

[montevideo]

Ben Sherman and Fred Perry are very context specific, you got to make it look interesting or you might just look like an ole punk whose past the leather jacket and mohawk days.

But ultimately I find the Ben Sherman to restrictive in it's overly masculine aesthetic, Fred Perry on the other hand spans a spectrum of styles from OCesque geek chic ala Seth, Arthouse indie ala Bloc Party, postmodern mod ala Ordinary Boys, in less desirable outfits the fred perry can signify preppy prick, or plain old laddish wanker.

not forgetting the perry boys were the precursors to casuals. Putting it in context, like.

 

[Tatiana]

Anybody heard of the Radical Cheerleaders?

Are they much cop, or are they similar to CIRCA's pretend loonery?

 

[Taxamo Welf]

Tartan lined.

i know.....?

want to hear more of revols fashion tips