ivebeenhigh
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Marius said:
you need to be cautious. you will start to see old fat black men (AKA REALLY CONSPICUOUS NUTJOB) following you to breakfast if you arent careful...
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you need to be cautious. you will start to see old fat black men (AKA REALLY CONSPICUOUS NUTJOB) following you to breakfast if you arent careful...
ivebeenhigh
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Brockway said:Me and Travolta go back a long way.
Nah, they are weird but to me they are no weirder than christians.
*sigh* ok ill bite. why then the secrecy?
*Miss Daisy*
Suck a Big Hairy....
ivebeenhigh said:
Heh, He wasnt very good was he? He looked like he was on day release from the assylum(sorry poor spelling)mikeinworthing
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mikeinworthing said:]
Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead - their UK HQ.
Actually looking back at that picture of Saint Hill, I remember at the time that it looked like that village in ‘The Prisoner’ cult TV show, and just as scary.
ETA: Grrr - I am trying to post a image, but it's coming up only as a link - FFS
Jonti
what the dormouse said
I'm fascinated by cults -- "religions" based on secrecy, lies and mind control.
It's a sort of horrified fascination, tinged with feelings of deep revulsion and anger. Got myself targeted once too; a cult I had angered wrote to my employers (using the services of the London law firm "Schilling and Schilling" if you spy guys are looking for that kind of service) to try and make trouble for me
So ... best to tool up appropriately for that kind of lark -- something like anonymos-schmoo looks well handy.
It's a sort of horrified fascination, tinged with feelings of deep revulsion and anger. Got myself targeted once too; a cult I had angered wrote to my employers (using the services of the London law firm "Schilling and Schilling" if you spy guys are looking for that kind of service) to try and make trouble for me
So ... best to tool up appropriately for that kind of lark -- something like anonymos-schmoo looks well handy.
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
To survive, a cult must look in on itself as the one true way - any outside influence may weaken the unity. That's the first reason for secrecy. The second is that scientology is a pay-as-you-go religion. To learn its secrets, you have to pay for 'auditing' sessions, which get more and more expensive the higher up you get. Many people end up signing away their entire material wealth to progress to the next level. If you've done that, you're hardly going to tell anyone for free are you?ivebeenhigh said:
Only when you've spent 10,000s do you you learn the inner truth - all the aliens and volcanoes shit. Up until that point, all you know is that L Ron invented an incredible way of contrlling emotions and that there is a material component to the soul. When it turns out that this material component is actually the dead souls of millions of ancient aliens, then I think your brain implodes and there's nothing you can do.
mikeinworthing
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8ball said:
And they have had that hellhole for 20-odd years.
ivebeenhigh
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this is the wiki entry for the exhibition that was featured in the documentary
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatry:_An_Industry_of_Death
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatry:_An_Industry_of_Death
8ball
World is a fuck
Wasn't there some kind of 'emotion-machine' they were using at some point to pick up the alien corruption in your soul?
Scientology is
, it's like a glitzy, Hollywood kind of cult that ran out of budget before the scriptwriters were hired so they got some low-rent Sci-fi geek to fill in the details.
I've got this great book about cults called 'Spying in Guru Land' where this investigative journalist joins loads of cults over the course of a year or so, sees the inner workings etc.
Scientology is
, it's like a glitzy, Hollywood kind of cult that ran out of budget before the scriptwriters were hired so they got some low-rent Sci-fi geek to fill in the details.I've got this great book about cults called 'Spying in Guru Land' where this investigative journalist joins loads of cults over the course of a year or so, sees the inner workings etc.
mikeinworthing
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Crispy said:
Very true - I am surpised Murdoch hasn't taken it over.
Jonti
what the dormouse said
Why is this kind of charlatanism permitted in the context of "religion"? You'd get busted by Trading Standards if you tried to set up shop offering services based on that device as a regular business.8ball said:
But thanks to legal changes made by nuLabour, if you tried to debunk the $cientologists' machine, you'd more likely be hassled by them for "copyright crimes"
that's what JOhn Sweeney should have done. That guy was threatening him and harassing him. Crimes in my book. But then my book was written by a crazed old man.mikeinworthing said:And East Grinstead
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Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead - their UK HQ.
I helped to ‘rescue’ a young lady from there about 20 years back.
We were ‘confronted’ by some ‘believers’ as we collected her stuff – scary bastards.
But, we threaten to call the cops and they backed-off.
The reporter should have treated that Tommy character in this way?
"so you think you're Tom cruise?, You think your tom cruise don't ya? Hair glasses Tom cruise, Mission impossible, do you think you're Tom Cruise is he your hero? Am I bovvered? Am I bovvered by a wanna be Tom Cruise? Do you fancy him, is that why you wanna be him Am I bovvered? Face bovvered? etc etc!"
"so you think you're Tom cruise?, You think your tom cruise don't ya? Hair glasses Tom cruise, Mission impossible, do you think you're Tom Cruise is he your hero? Am I bovvered? Am I bovvered by a wanna be Tom Cruise? Do you fancy him, is that why you wanna be him Am I bovvered? Face bovvered? etc etc!"
Louloubelle
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Jonti said:I'm fascinated by cults -- "religions" based on secrecy, lies and mind control.
It's a sort of horrified fascination, tinged with feelings of deep revulsion and anger. Got myself targeted once too; a cult I had angered wrote to my employers (using the services of the London law firm "Schilling and Schilling" if you spy guys are looking for that kind of service) to try and make trouble for me
So ... best to tool up appropriately for that kind of lark -- something like anonymos-schmoo looks well handy.
I dislike the word "cult" as it's so pejorative
one person's cult is another person's religion
a good friend who's family was torn apart by scientology had the divisions in her family further widened by some of the people inthe anti-cult movement, who often give families false hope, as well as relieving them of lots of money, offereing and carrying out kidnappins and "de-programming" which is almost always counter-productive and do more harm than good
There are plenty of serious valid criticisms you can make about scientology without having to use the word cult and I think this let the panorama programme down. There are so many serious issues they didn't look at, there was no in depth analysis.
However it did show very clearly just how much of a pain in the arse the scientologists can make themselves to people who challenge them. I can understand why the guy lost his temper, the thing is, what they did to him was just a tiny hint of what they've done to others
I'd be interested to see how they get on in the light of the protection from harassement act
anti-cult movement link
http://www.religioustolerance.org/acm.htm
liampreston
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gnoriac said:
Haha - don't tell Jazzz!
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