Chronicles of Narnia - I really, really want to see this

[Idris2002]

Aslan could have been the next U2 if Christy Dignam hadn't got hooked on horse.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Don't really care about the religious bollox but saw the trailer the other night and wow! Lord of the Rings style battles!!

 

[Idris2002]

And you know, that's really not in the spirit of the books, now is it?

 

[jodal]

I haven't read the book but in the film all the humans are called "son of adam" or "daughter of eve", how is that not Xtian?

 

[Kid_Eternity]

And you know, that's really not in the spirit of the books, now is it?

So!?

 

[Dubversion]

I haven't read the book but in the film all the humans are called "son of adam" or "daughter of eve", how is that not Xtian?

it's Jungian, apparently

 

[onenameshelley]

Mag screening at UCI Empire yesterday.



Perks of the job.

Dang

 

[Belushi]

I haven't read the book but in the film all the humans are called "son of adam" or "daughter of eve", how is that not Xtian?

There's undoubtedly a strong Christian element to the books, particularly the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe.

I'm an atheist but it doesn't bother me, religion has inspired a lot of great art.

 

[Louloubelle]

it's Jungian, apparently

you just love pissing on people's firworks don't you?
that is your favourite smiley isn't it?
bet you were a bully at school, but given your high regard for yourself you probably don't even realise it

 

[Dubversion]

you just love pissing on people's firworks don't you?
that is your favourite smiley isn't it?
bet you were a bully at school, but given your high regard for yourself you probably don't even realise it

sorry? i was simply responding to your posts - and somebody else's response to it - because i found it ludicruous. is that suddenly verboten?

 

[Louloubelle]

I haven't read the book but in the film all the humans are called "son of adam" or "daughter of eve", how is that not Xtian?

er, because adam and eve were in the old testament
it was allegedly at the begining of the world before that jesus person turned up
correct me if I'm wrong but i think that xtianity is based on the myth of jesus

 

[Louloubelle]

sorry? i was simply responding to your posts - and somebody else's response to it - because i found it ludicruous. is that suddenly verboten?

it's not what you say
it's how you say it
you seem to get a great deal of pleasure from trying to humiliate people

IMO

 

[Dubversion]

it's not what you say
it's how you say it
you seem to get a great deal of pleasure from trying to humiliate people

IMO

sorry you see it that way. i don't try and humiliate anyone, but i do respond to things if i think they're bollocks.

 

[jodal]

Shows how much I know I guess.

 

[Louloubelle]

right.. so Aslan is betrayed and then killed because of the sins of others, but rises from the dead?

not Christian?

get a grip

ever heard or osiris? mithras? dionysus?

Lots of ancient religions feature a god who dies and is ressurected.

that's what cs lewis's stepson was saying on tv this morning

he's a xtian but he was saying the xtian elements of the book had been exagerated by xtian fundementalists and that, from his understanding of his stepfather, the film was about the myth of the dying and ressurected god, of which jesus is just one manifestation

 

[Dubversion]

i would respond, louloubelle, but since you're such a sensitive little flower i daren't risk it.

 

[Louloubelle]

sorry you see it that way. i don't try and humiliate anyone, but i do respond to things if i think they're bollocks.

that's the thing though

you clearly don't know or didn't know CS lewsi more than his own stepson, yet you're making statements saying that the claims of CS Lewis's own stepson are 'bollocks'. You should get your facts right before posting, espeically if you're posting your usual pissing on people's fireworks style posts

IMO

 

[Fruitloop]

It would be easier to believe the Jungian angle on things were it not for Lewis's prodigious output of Christian propaganda in his other books, tbh.

 

[tastebud]

god bothering bollocks with talking animals. i'd rather eat my own puke than bother with this

well fuck off then. for once.

 

[belboid]

he's a xtian but he was saying the xtian elements of the book had been exagerated by xtian fundementalists and that, from his understanding of his stepfather, the film was about the myth of the dying and ressurected god, of which jesus is just one manifestation

sounds like a belated attempt at wider justification.

not having seen the film, i wouldn't like to say for sure that this version isn't what is portrayed therein, but the book was about christianity, and it's triumph over islam. and quite horrid with it, imvho.

 

[Dubversion]

that's the thing though

you clearly don't know or didn't know CS lewsi more than his own stepson, yet you're making statements saying that the claims of CS Lewis's own stepson are 'bollocks'. You should get your facts right before posting, espeically if you're posting your usual pissing on people's fireworks style posts

IMO

oh do fuck off. i've read all the Narnia chronicles and a great deal around the subject - i used to be very into this sort of stuff. I've also read some brilliant critiques of his work by the likes of Michael Moorcock. i disagree with his stepson, so what? i think it's pure revisionism on his part, actually.

so stop being so fucking patronising. your passive/aggressive crap really gets on my tits, you know.

 

[Louloubelle]

It would be easier to believe the Jungian angle on things were it not for Lewis's prodigious output of Christian propaganda in his other books, tbh.

CS lewis was an atheist in his early adulthood and rejected a lot of xtain dogma throught his life

his interest in xtianity was spaarked through reading george macdonald's novels.

macdonald was himself far from an orthdox xtian, he rejected the concept of hell and of sin and was himself into the kabalah and studied mythology.

If, like me, you;ve read Jung and Macdonald extensively you'll come to the conclusion that Jung lifted a lot of his theories, including that of The Shadow, from Macdonald.

Given that Lewis was heavily influenced by macdonald I think it's unsurprising that lewis's stepson claims that the LTWAYW was iunfluenced by the myt of the dying and resurected god, itself something that Jung wrote extensively about

 

[belboid]

you clearly don't know or didn't know CS lewsi more than his own stepson, yet you're making statements saying that the claims of CS Lewis's own stepson are 'bollocks'.

dear lord!

as you dont know CS (yes, I'm on first name terms with him, we commune often) any better than his stepson either, your argument should mean that you don't pass any further comment either, and just post up his statements. But that would make for an awful dull thread.

 

[Dubversion]

also, louloubelle, i'm not alone in my belief that this is revisionism, so perhaps you need to address your hissyfit further afield?

 

[onenameshelley]

Can i just say that is it really really that important about the Christian angle? Its a kids book and i dont suppose for one minute that a kids is going to give a shite whether its christian or not they just want to be entertained. Why does everything have to be bloody complicated all the time. Kids are kids let them enjoy the wonder and magic while they can without bloody disecting everything all the time ffs!!

 

[jodal]

well fuck off then. for once.

Anyway, what was this thread about again? Oh yeah...

 

[Dubversion]

louloubelle - do you really think that quite a few of us didn't realise long ago that without your beloved google, you'd be nothing?

it's so fucking transparent, you know..

 

[Louloubelle]

oh do fuck off. i've read all the Narnia chronicles and a great deal around the subject - i used to be very into this sort of stuff. I've also read some brilliant critiques of his work by the likes of Michael Moorcock. i disagree with his stepson, so what? i think it's pure revisionism on his part, actually.

so stop being so fucking patronising. your passive/aggressive crap really gets on my tits, you know.

michael moorcock

LOL


yes, I'm the passive aggressive one, look in the mirror Dub, you're actually a very aggressive person and you enjoy being aggressive to other people. a lot

 

[Dubversion]

Can i just say that is it really really that important about the Christian angle? Its a kids book and i dont suppose for one minute that a kids is going to give a shite whether its christian or not they just want to be entertained. Why does everything have to be bloody complicated all the time. Kids are kids let them enjoy the wonder and magic while they can without bloody disecting everything all the time ffs!!

when i read them - as a kid - the christian stuff pissed me off. ok, that's just me, but i was a kid so surely my viewpoint is just as valid?

 

[Belushi]

ever heard or osiris? mithras? dionysus?

Lots of ancient religions feature a god who dies and is ressurected.

that's what cs lewis's stepson was saying on tv this morning

he's a xtian but he was saying the xtian elements of the book had been exagerated by xtian fundementalists and that, from his understanding of his stepfather, the film was about the myth of the dying and ressurected god, of which jesus is just one manifestation

It must be 20+ since I last read the books but I do remember them being more overtly Christian than that. For example Aslan isn't a god, he's the son of God ('The Emperor-Over-The-Sea) and dont they encounter Aslan as a lamb at one point (in Prince Caspian I think).