Chris Harman dies in Cairo

[Paul Marsh]

There is a very simple way to commemorate this great Socialist.

The Nahdet Misr statue in Cairo is considered one of the great political works of art of the 20th century. Its symbolism, of a woman casting off her veil, suggests not only an Egypt moving forward from colonialism, but of women throwing off the shackles of religious superstition.

Harman should be cremated, and his ashes scattered at the foot of this symbol of emancipatory struggle.

 

[JHE]

Why is there a collection to brng home Harman's corpse? I thought he was a atheist, and a materalist wtf would he care where his bones are dumped.

Funerals are not for the benefit of dead people. They are for the benefit of people who are still alive.

The fact that Harman does not care where his "bones are dumped" has nothing to do with the fact that he was an atheist and materialist. The reason he doesn't care is that he can't. He's dead. Dead people who were religious believers don't care any more than dead people who were not.

However, your question is a good one: "Why is there a collection to brng home Harman's corpse?" I think the answer has to be that the tight gits on the Central Committee of the Social Workers Party have not yet agreed to pick up the bill, so the family has no option but to pass round the hat.

 

[JHE]

The Nahdet Misr statue in Cairo is considered one of the great political works of art of the 20th century. Its symbolism, of a woman casting off her veil, suggests not only an Egypt moving forward from colonialism, but of women throwing off the shackles of religious superstition.

Islamo-Trot: No, no, no. That's a typically ignorant, Eurocentric, Islamophobble interpretation. She is not casting off her veil. She is putting it on!

Islamist: This sculpture is part of the cultural legacy of European colonialism. Figurative art is haram. Blow it up.

 

[cogg]

Didn't he have travel insurance?

 

[CUMBRIANDRAGON]

Shows you how much the swp are money grabbers. They cant even foot the bill for one of their long time serving members.

 

[Rod Sleeves]

Didn't he have travel insurance?

Maybe he got a crap deal that didn't give cover for that, it wouldn't be that unusual.

 

[Red Cat]

Shows you how much the swp are money grabbers. They cant even foot the bill for one of their long time serving members.

They're skint you idiot. And I'm sure they are making a contribution.

 

[Nigel]

There is a very simple way to commemorate this great Socialist.

The Nahdet Misr statue in Cairo is considered one of the great political works of art of the 20th century. Its symbolism, of a woman casting off her veil, suggests not only an Egypt moving forward from colonialism, but of women throwing off the shackles of religious superstition.

Harman should be cremated, and his ashes scattered at the foot of this symbol of emancipatory struggle.

Whether or not his ashes are scatttered in Cairo or not, cremation seems the order of the day. Must be a lot cheaper to bring ashes back than his body.
This would probably piss off his Islamic supporters though because it would not be fitting with Muslim burial proceedures!

 

[dennisr]

This would probably piss off his Islamic supporters though because it would not be fitting with Muslim burial proceedures!

Late as ever Nigel. The blokes fuckin' died - haven't we had enough of this tedious poison by now?

 

[Nigel]

Late as ever Nigel. The blokes fuckin' died - haven't we had enough of this tedious poison by now?

What poision is this,by the way haven't said anything derrogotary about Chris Harman just commenting on SWP setting up fund for eight grand to bring him to U.K.
Glad to see you haven't lost your appetite for following us around U75 slating every post you can!

 

[Rod Sleeves]

Glad to see you haven't lost your appetite for following us around U75 slating every post you can!

Us?

 

[dennisr]

Glad to see you haven't lost your appetite for following us around U75 slating every post you can!

I aim to please

 

[CUMBRIANDRAGON]

They're skint you idiot. And I'm sure they are making a contribution.

Dont be so fucking stupid skintmy arse.

The central c. Has milked thousands maybe its about time they put some money back in.

Shows you what sort an organisation the swp is.

 

[Rod Sleeves]

Rubbish there's no harm in the SWP having a whip round to get a comrade's body sent back, it's pretty standard really, and makes sense if otherwise the family have to pay - I doubt they've got much money.

I am surprised the insurance isn't covering it though tbh.

 

[Nigel]

It's just that no matter what happens the SWP seem to use it opportunistically as a fund raiser, usually for their own benefit. How many placards are they going to produce for his memorial do you reckon?

What is up with cremating his body in Egypt and sending the ashes back to UK.

Mind you eight grands isn't really that much money!

 

[belboid]

Dont be so fucking stupid skintmy arse.

The central c. Has milked thousands maybe its about time they put some money back in.

Shows you what sort an organisation the swp is.

what it shows it what a deeply ignorant and nasty little twat you are actually. Another one no one would pay a penny for.

 

[Rod Sleeves]

It's just that no matter what happens the SWP seem to use it opportunistically as a fund raiser, usually for their own benefit. How many placards are they going to produce for his memorial do you reckon?

What is up with cremating his body in Egypt and sending the ashes back to UK.

Mind you eight grands isn't really that much money!

Anyone who donates money to this fund is likely to be familiar with the SWP, and be willing for the money to be used as the party sees fit.

 

[CUMBRIANDRAGON]

what it shows it what a deeply ignorant and nasty little twat you are actually. Another one no one would pay a penny for.

Thanks


Sorry I apolagise the swp shouldnt have to foot the bill for this long serving comrade. Happy now.

 

[Nigel]

They should use the money to build the mass party!

 

[Idris2002]

They should use the money to build the mass party!

It's what he would have wanted.

And funnily enough, the tone of some of the posts on this thread have made me think somewhat more fondly of Cde. Harman and his party, and less so of their detractors.

 

[Red Cat]

Thanks


Sorry I apolagise the swp shouldnt have to foot the bill for this long serving comrade. Happy now.

Its actually absolutely none of your business what an organisation of which you're not a member and about which you know nothing decide to do with money donated by his comrades in support of his family.

 

[Pickman's model]

Its actually absolutely none of your business what an organisation of which you're not a member and about which you know nothing decide to do with money donated by his comrades in support of his family.

i think many people here know rather more than they care to about the nefandous swp.

& most people would, i think, be disgusted should any organisation collect money "in support" of someone's family in similar circumstances and for none of that money to reach the family.

 

[Pickman's model]

Anyone who donates money to this fund is likely to be familiar with the SWP, and be willing for the money to be used as the party sees fit.

what i think you're saying is they'd have more money than sense.

 

[phildwyer]

nefandous

He's serious isn't he?

 

[Jonti]

... what a deeply ignorant and nasty little twat you are actually.

I'd say this is certainly true of you, belboid, from our previous meeting on these boards.

But you don't do intelligent self-awareness, do you?

 

[phildwyer]

I'd say this is certainly true of you, belboid, from our previous meeting on these boards.

But you don't do intelligent self-awareness, do you?

In fairness, I don't think Belboid is quite as nefandous as Pickman's.

 

[dylans]

In fairness, I don't think Belboid is quite as nefandous as Pickman's.

The nefandous clique

 

[phildwyer]

The nefandous clique

You'd think that Pickman's public school education could have bought better than that.

 

[audiotech]

...

 

[JHE]

They're skint you idiot. And I'm sure they are making a contribution.

Bollocks. Don't pretend they couldn't do more.

If they had to pay ten grand to conduct some Social Worker propaganda activity like "Marxism 20xx" or some daft bit of Islamophile campaigning or had to ferry hundreds of students to shout 'Naaaartzeee!' at someone, the money would be paid.

The obvious thing for the CC to do now is to say 'the Party' will pay the bill, get the body moved and burnt or buried and then, when they send round their next begging letter to the members, they can mention the disposal of Nutty Shardman's remains as one of the extra expenses 'the Party' has recently had, which should prompt an extra dollop of generosity from the faithful.

To delay until the family has passed the hat enough (for weeks? months?) and, having counted the coppers, found they have just enough to get the body home is mean and silly. Perhaps the CC will come to its senses on this and do the decent thing. That would still leave them ample scope to be complete arses in all other ways.