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Chris Harman dies in Cairo

Actually Hallas made a far greater contribution, there was a man who who could reach a working class audience . Marxism made simple and relevant. In both London and Manchester he was the chap who you brought people at work or contacts to listen to.And he would still discuss issues raised in the bar.

That's true. He was much loved by the Manchester comrades when I was a member in the mid-90s. Unfortunately I didn't witness him at his best.
 
From the few brief times I actually came in contact with him seemed to be one of the more integral top figures in the SWP, quite quiet stoic and thoughtful definitely sincere.

One of the first books I read in early teens was his on German Revolution.

Whatever political disagreements its a loss that he has died!
 
Actually Hallas made a far greater contribution, there was a man who who could reach a working class audience .
He was the most approachable of them all. First time I met him we'd just picked him up at Dublin ferryport and he said "I remember you from my meeting at Marxism on the family and class society! You kept shaking your head at all my best points. Now then, do we have time on our way into town for me to convince you I was right..." And by the time the journey was over he'd convinced us all in the car. Gem of a man.
 
from a heart attack, whilst at a conference there.

Probably the most thoughtful member of the SWP since the passing of the 'old guard' around Cliff, he may have talked shite quite often, but was a valiant fighter for working-class people for more than four decades, and a fine writer.

RIP Chris

http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=19502


He talked shit most of time. RIP thoe no-oned deserves to go out this way.

He was no fighter for working class people he was just a puppet of the SWP.
 
Some news about an appeal for Chris Harman.

If you genuinely want to contribute some money for this contact me (and as long as you are onside) I will pass on the payment details;

> Dear comrades,
>
> You will, I am sure, have been shocked and saddened by Chris
> Harman’s death.
>
> As you know, Chris died in Egypt. This has created a difficult
> material problem for his family. In order to get Chris’s body home
> to England for the funeral, and to pay for the funeral costs, the
> family have to raise quite a large sum of money which they simply
> don’t have.
>
> It may be that you have already been approached about this, in which
> case my apologies. But if not, you would probably like to know that
> an emergency fund has been established to help bring Chris’s body
> back to England, and – when the coroner has then released it – to
> enable us all to meet together and hold a funeral for our lost
> comrade.
 
You'd think the Social Workers' Party would pay to have their employee's body flown home, wouldn't you? He was on 'business'.

Failing that, you might hope that the objects of the Social Workers' wooing would pick up the bill. Nutty Shardman went all the way to Egypt to suck up to the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamists. Won't they pay to repatriate the craven kufar's corpse?
 
Some news about an appeal for Chris Harman.

If you genuinely want to contribute some money for this contact me (and as long as you are onside) I will pass on the payment details;

> Dear comrades,
>
> You will, I am sure, have been shocked and saddened by Chris
> Harman’s death.
>
> As you know, Chris died in Egypt. This has created a difficult
> material problem for his family. In order to get Chris’s body home
> to England for the funeral, and to pay for the funeral costs, the
> family have to raise quite a large sum of money which they simply
> don’t have.
>
> It may be that you have already been approached about this, in which
> case my apologies. But if not, you would probably like to know that
> an emergency fund has been established to help bring Chris’s body
> back to England, and – when the coroner has then released it – to
> enable us all to meet together and hold a funeral for our lost
> comrade.


Out of respect why are the SWP not paying for this. Its disgusting if the family are being left with the bill. After all chris gave so many years to the swp.
 
Trotscam?

who say's that's even genuine?

I think it is genuine, but... <gulp> ...now you mention it, it could be a scam. Perhaps this is the first of a new wave of email fraud. No more offers to give you millions if you just let some Nigerian barrister use your bank account to look after stolen billions. No more requests for money from supposedly beautiful but distant foreign women, so they can pay for the journey to come and marry you and live happily ever after. No more urgent requests for all your security details from someone pretending to be your bank. No, no, nothing so tired and transparent. From now on, it's going to be begging letters from people who want your help paying for the international transportation of dead Trots.
 
Some news about an appeal for Chris Harman.

If you genuinely want to contribute some money for this contact me (and as long as you are onside) I will pass on the payment details;

> Dear comrades,
>
> You will, I am sure, have been shocked and saddened by Chris
> Harman’s death.
>
> As you know, Chris died in Egypt. This has created a difficult
> material problem for his family. In order to get Chris’s body home
> to England for the funeral, and to pay for the funeral costs, the
> family have to raise quite a large sum of money which they simply
> don’t have.
>
> It may be that you have already been approached about this, in which
> case my apologies. But if not, you would probably like to know that
> an emergency fund has been established to help bring Chris’s body
> back to England, and – when the coroner has then released it – to
> enable us all to meet together and hold a funeral for our lost
> comrade.
oh ffs :mad:
 
I think it is genuine, but... <gulp> ...now you mention it, it could be a scam. Perhaps this is the first of a new wave of email fraud. No more offers to give you millions if you just let some Nigerian barrister use your bank account to look after stolen billions. No more requests for money from supposedly beautiful but distant foreign women, so they can pay for the journey to come and marry you and live happily ever after. No more urgent requests for all your security details from someone pretending to be your bank. No, no, nothing so tired and transparent. From now on, it's going to be begging letters from people who want your help paying for the international transportation of dead Trots.
twat.
 
A bit odd that the party can't at least help out. . .

Anyhoo. About this:

Harman was a Cliffite to the marrow - some of his most extensive researches amount to evidentiary appendices to Cliff’s State capitalism in Russia; others (the anthropology, particularly) were embedded in internal spats conducted dishonestly by the apparat.

What internal spats were these? And how could Harman's writing on anthropology - which weren't brilliant, but were respectable bits of work - fit into this picture?
 
I think it is genuine, but... <gulp> ...now you mention it, it could be a scam. Perhaps this is the first of a new wave of email fraud. No more offers to give you millions if you just let some Nigerian barrister use your bank account to look after stolen billions. No more requests for money from supposedly beautiful but distant foreign women, so they can pay for the journey to come and marry you and live happily ever after. No more urgent requests for all your security details from someone pretending to be your bank. No, no, nothing so tired and transparent. From now on, it's going to be begging letters from people who want your help paying for the international transportation of dead Trots.

It is genuine, from trusted source. Also orginates from a SWPer whose been around for decades...
 
A bit odd that the party can't at least help out. . .

Anyhoo. About this:

What internal spats were these? And how could Harman's writing on anthropology - which weren't brilliant, but were respectable bits of work - fit into this picture?

At one time there was an intense debate over the theories of ex-SWP member Chris Knight of G20 and Radical Anthropology Group fame pertaining to 'aquatic origins', hunter-gatherer societies and the marxist theory of the origins of women's oppression.

There was also a similar debate over whether there was a 'dialectics of nature' with Chris Harman arguing there was, while other leading members of the SWP such as John Rees had argued that there wasn't
 
Why is there a collection to brng home Harman's corpse? I thought he was a atheist, and a materalist wtf would he care where his bones are dumped.
btw if he had travel insurance this would be covered
 
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