Choosing a Hospital.

[Minnie_the_Minx]

I'll be pushing very hard at St Thomas's quite shortly...

60/40

Are you having a baby?

If that's the case, you may need the money. 70/30 then, as I'm unemployed so need the money as well

 

[ericjarvis]

Simple. You look at where the hospitals are. You see the location of St Thomas's. You work out what that means in terms of who gets treated. You choose St Thomas's because the one thing you can be sure of is the MPs have no intention of allowing their local hospital to be anything less than brilliantly funded.

 

[teuchter]

I have been to an appointment at the ENT department at Guys.

I have had things stuck down my nose and throat (but not ears) at St Thomas's, but not in the ENT department.

HTH

 

[quimcunx]

 

[electrogirl]

I'm going to be working at Guy's so you should go there and meet me for lunch.

 

[pootle]

So I need an appointment at an ENT unit and apparently I can choose between St. Thomas's, Guys and St. George's in Tooting.

I don't actually know where Guys is, so that's a mark against it.

And now I'm stuck.


Anyone recommend anywhere? Is there a site where I can compare salient aspects of each service? Hotness of doctors etc.

I go to Guy's ENT unit and the service/treatment is variable because I see a different consultant everytime - I reckon this is cos they have ENT consultants in training there.

I could probably check out the training/QA reports for each of those sites and let you know if there are any to avoid for ENT

 

[teuchter]

A doctor acquaintance of mine told me that ENT is the specialisation of choice for the stupid ones. Can't remember the reasoning behind this now.

 

[quimcunx]

A doctor acquaintance of mine told me that ENT is the specialisation of choice for the stupid ones. Can't remember the reasoning behind this now.

smallest area?

Should I demand to be seen by a dermatoligist instead, on the logic that the skin is the biggest organ?

 

[pootle]

A doctor acquaintance of mine told me that ENT is the specialisation of choice for the stupid ones. Can't remember the reasoning behind this now.

ENT is a very unpopular specialty. Dermatology isn't though and the trainees and trainers in that specialty are total wankers

 

[quimcunx]

I'm going to be working at Guy's so you should go there and meet me for lunch.

But I'd decided to go to St. Thomas's. now you are confusing me with different options.

I go to Guy's ENT unit and the service/treatment is variable because I see a different consultant everytime - I reckon this is cos they have ENT consultants in training there.

I could probably check out the training/QA reports for each of those sites and let you know if there are any to avoid for ENT

You could if you like. It can't make me any more confused.



Meanwhile I've received a letter reminding me to book.

 

[teuchter]

smallest area?

Should I demand to be seen by a dermatoligist instead, on the logic that the skin is the biggest organ?

Something to do with them training as surgeons, rather than medics...

And surgeons basically being good at bashing things around and cutting bits out and stuff rather than using brainpower. Or something.

Or was it gastroenterologists she was talking about?

Can't remember now.

Once again, HTH.

 

[teuchter]

Aren't Guy's and St Thomas's all part of the same trust anyway?

 

[pootle]

Or was it gastroenterologists she was talking about?

Gastroenterologists, both trainers and trainees are totaly wankers too.

I'm wondering if know the same person teuchter?

 

[quimcunx]

Once again, HTH.

Did your doctor acquaintance enjoy hootananny?

 

[teuchter]

Did your doctor acquaintance enjoy hootananny?

Actually - no.

 

[teuchter]

I'm wondering if know the same person teuchter?

Does she have a remarkably sophisticated and handsome older brother?

 

[quimcunx]

Does she have a remarkably sophisticated and handsome older brother?

Oh. I don't know if it's the same person pootle knows but she's obviously not the same doctorly acquaintance I thought you were referring to.



''yeah so just now it's the department that is making the appointments so I'll pass your details on and they'll phone you about 4 weeks beforehand with some days and times'.


No clue as to when this 4 weeks beforehand might be.

 

[Corax]

Aren't Guy's and St Thomas's all part of the same trust anyway?

Yes.

NHS Choices is the first call.

Also Dr Foster: http://www.drfosterhealth.co.uk/

Use Google News to find out about any inquests etc at the Trusts.

For any surgery, don't just choose your hospital, insist on choosing your surgeon.

Be careful with interpreting the data though. A high level of mortality for that surgeon might make you think they're crap. But wait, what if they have more patients that die because they do all the complex stuff because they're shit hot, and so survival rates would be lower for those patients? Just worth bearing in mind and digging deeper.

Look at the consultants that might be treating you. Google them. See what their profile's like. Speak at international conferences? Lots of good, peer-reviewed publications? Dig dig dig.

 

[Corax]

Oh. I don't know if it's the same person pootle knows but she's obviously not the same doctorly acquaintance I thought you were referring to.



''yeah so just now it's the department that is making the appointments so I'll pass your details on and they'll phone you about 4 weeks beforehand with some days and times'.


No clue as to when this 4 weeks beforehand might be.

Well they have 18 weeks from referral to treatment. 13 weeks referral to diagnostics too for most specialties.

 

[quimcunx]

Well they have 18 weeks from referral to treatment. 13 weeks referral to diagnostics too for most specialties.

I'll assume they're confident I'm not cancerous then.

 

[ash]

Having worked at St Georges and Guys & St Thomas's I would go for the latter. However not for maternity where my experience of both was bad. Sorry not much knowledge of ENT in either.

 

[Corax]

I'll assume they're confident I'm not cancerous then.

Eh? Cancer has different targets - 2 week wait (2WW).

 

[Maurice Picarda]

Professionals don't need artificial incentives.
.

Yes they do. If you want them to do things cost effectively, rather than just well. And without covering up for their incompetent mates.

 

[quimcunx]

Eh? Cancer has different targets - 2 week wait (2WW).

Yes. And I am obviously not on a 2 week wait. So that is good.

 

[Corax]

Yes. And I am obviously not on a 2 week wait. So that is good.

Ah, right.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

i always go to st thomas's

birth, apendix and two broken legs (not at the same time)

 

[quimcunx]

Well I chose St. Thomas's.

I've got an appointment at Guys.

Obviously a very loose definition of the word 'choose' in operation.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Well I chose St. Thomas's.

I've got an appointment at Guys.

Obviously a very loose definition of the word 'choose' in operation.

Oh, that's a shame. You could have done your shopping at M&S if they'd given you a choice

 

[little_legs]

Well I chose St. Thomas's.

I've got an appointment at Guys.

Obviously a very loose definition of the word 'choose' in operation.

ENT departments at both Guy's & St. Thomas' are pretty good. They differ by the specific ENT matters they deal with. I presume your issue is relevant to Guy's ENT. And if you need to go to St. Thomas' from Guy's, there is a shuttle bus every 20 min.