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ok, just checking ;)

i think it was the generalization about 'hicks ville towns' that got my back up cos i live and work very hard in a 'hicks ville town' and i always stand out in a crowd . i dislike generalizations. sorry :o
 
ice-is-forming said:
ok, just checking ;)

i think it was the generalization about 'hicks ville towns' that got my back up cos i live and work very hard in a 'hicks ville town'. sorry :o

Sorry icey - that was me, not jodal. It's just something someone (cherryripe) said about Albury. I'm just a bit worried about my friend who's just moved there. I don't think she's expecting it to be like England (she's not English anyway) but I do worry she'll be isolated.

I should stop hijacking poor jodal's thread anyway :o
 
no worries trashy :)

Its not so bad living in small town rural aus honestly, it may be just what your mate needs, a sense of community, no rat race, time.....there are heaps of organizations (some official some unofficial) to help cut down on the isolation that can be experienced by rural mums.

have you heard from her, perhaps your worries are unfounded ?

it looks quite good if you google it, loads of infrastructure.

theres 100,000 population, thats hardly small or even rural really. where i live has 2000 and the nearest largest town (which is in fact called a city) has only 70,000 :D

heres a link for the council page that tells about services and events etc...

http://www.alburycity.nsw.gov.au/

it looks like a pretty place.

good luck with everything this week trashy, may your pushes be long and hard :)
 
Thanks icey - I'll have a look. I only looked on wiki and it said the pop was 40,000. :rolleyes: She's only just got there and I know she's a bit worried about it but hopefully people will be friendly - she's moved from Switzerland and I know she found it hard to integrate there. :)

Long and hard - yes indeed :cool:
 
ice-is-forming said:
ok, just checking ;)

i think it was the generalization about 'hicks ville towns' that got my back up cos i live and work very hard in a 'hicks ville town' and i always stand out in a crowd . i dislike generalizations. sorry :o

You are right about generalisations and I had second thoughts about whether to comment about Albury - maybe the week I spent there (and I know it's not long) gave me the wrong impression about the place. The reason I did comment was that I work mainly with Asian Australians, Chinese and Vietnamese and we went ten pin bowling in Albury and got a load of racist shit of two different groups in a single night.
There are several country towns I love in NSW and to a lesser extent Queensland (don't know it as well) - Albury isn't one of them.

Don't want to fight though, I love Australia......
 
CherryRipe said:
You are right about generalisations and I had second thoughts about whether to comment about Albury - maybe the week I spent there (and I know it's not long) gave me the wrong impression about the place. The reason I did comment was that I work mainly with Asian Australians, Chinese and Vietnamese and we went ten pin bowling in Albury and got a load of racist shit of two different groups in a single night.
There are several country towns I love in NSW and to a lesser extent Queensland (don't know it as well) - Albury isn't one of them.

Don't want to fight though
, I love Australia......

me neither :)

too many people here are racist and sexist, i see it as ignorance and conditioning really and its challenging but i try to do my bit to make them question their ideas.
 
There's beaches here. That's nice. And I'm gonna get me a ute. :D[/QUOTE]

Oh my god, I can totally imagine you driving a ute, a packet of winfield blue shoved up your shirt sleeve, Jimmy Barnes blasting from the stereo :eek:

You go girl ;)
 
Dr Jon said:
Chatswood is quite nice.

Are you on drugs?

It's miles away from the CDB, as errr a shopping mall and thats about that.

Oh a few good places for yum cha, I'll give you that. But that's about it.
 
jodal said:
My girlfriend and I are moving to Sydney in September and are wondering where to move to.

What area(s) would you recommend?

What areas should I avoid?

Thanks! :D

Bondi is where it's at.
Near the city, near the beach, near other not so busy beaches, and has the best cafe in the world "Skinny Dip", oh and I am going to move here ASAP.

Bondi pwns.
 
Lived on the fringes of Newtown, well Marrickville really, for a while, it's really good there if you're interested in being near decent restaurants and clothes shops, plus the Enmore theatre. One cool fact about Newtown that I heard was that they had a McDonalds there once but the residents hated it so much, they bombarded the place with their rubbish. It forced them to shut the place down and now it's an Irish pub. :cool:

Broadway's also good if you want to be a near the city and looking for realtively cheap apartments. Close to the Lansdowne Hotel too which does a fantastic Bangers n Mash plus a schooner for only 8 odd bucks!

May I suggest staying, far, FAR, away from Redfern, especially anywhere near the train station. Looked at a place to stay there once and was somewhat put off by the metal bars on all the windows. :eek:
 
little edge said:
Oh my god, I can totally imagine you driving a ute, a packet of winfield blue shoved up your shirt sleeve, Jimmy Barnes blasting from the stereo :eek:

You go girl ;)

I don't know how to take that :confused: :p

@ OP: Do not go to Bondi. Too many poms.

ETA: 700th post! Really must switchoff the computer and go and do something less boring instead. ;)
 
HeroineSheep said:
@ OP: Do not go to Bondi. Too many poms.
I don't think we will be going to Bondi.

At the moment my favourites are Clovelly and Bronte although slightly worried about lack of transport links from Bronte.
 
Augie March said:
Broadway's also good if you want to be a near the city and looking for realtively cheap apartments. Close to the Lansdowne Hotel too which does a fantastic Bangers n Mash plus a schooner for only 8 odd bucks!

:

He he, I love the lansdowne :-D

Used to go there all the time when I lived in Pyrmont.
 
HeroineSheep said:
I don't know how to take that :confused: :p

@ OP: Do not go to Bondi. Too many poms.

You really believe this?

The only people I tend to notice more in Bondi is the Jewish community, which has never bothered me. There are the English people everywhere in Sydney not just Bondi.
 
Check out Randwick, thats where i'm living. 10 minute walk to Coogee beach/nightlife but quiet itself. It's alive with some of the best restuarants around...Asian/Western/Middle eastern. Bus services in to the city are quick & plentiful
 
mr pat said:
Check out Randwick, thats where i'm living. 10 minute walk to Coogee beach/nightlife but quiet itself. It's alive with some of the best restuarants around...Asian/Western/Middle eastern. Bus services in to the city are quick & plentiful
Randwick looks nice. I'll add that to the list.
 
jodal said:
Here are some of the main areas we are looking at:

Double Bay
Rushcutters Bay
Elizabeth Bay
Darlinghurst
Bronte
Coogee
Bondi
Clovelly
Paddington

Any stories, advice etc. about any of the above areas would be greatly appreciated.

thanks
Lifelong Sydneysider here (well, at least until i moved to the US a few years ago).

As others have said, that's some fucking expensive real estate you're looking at there, although if you're both going to be making decent money then you should be able to rent a pretty nice apartment or even a small semi-detached house.

Double Bay, Rushcutters Bay, and Elizabeth Bay are full of egregious yuppies as well as pretentious old money--the worst of both worlds, in my opinion. If you're close enough to Kings Cross, then it gets a little more gritty and interesting, but then you run into gawping tourists, drunken stag nights, and Pommy backpackers everywhere. :)

The eastern beachside suburbs like Bondi, Clovelly, etc. are all nice enough, especially if you really want to spend a lot of time at the beach. It's really nice to be able to walk to the beach, have a swim, and then walk home. Sydney has a reputation as a beach city, but the fact is that, if you don't live in one of the beachside suburbs, getting to the water can be a pain in the arse. Parking is a nightmare, public transport to the eastern suburbs is dodgy, and by the time you drag yourself all the way home again you're so hot that you may as well never have gone to the beach in the first place.

So, if the beach really is your thing, those places are good (although, again there's Pommy and German and Yank backpackers everywhere). If you want more than the beach from your Sydney experience, i'd go elsewhere.

Personally, i'm a huge fan of the area generally known as the Inner West. This encompasses suburbs like Ultimo, Glebe, Newtown, Redfern, Erskineville, Enmore, Annandale, Surry Hills, and a bunch of others. There are a few reasons i like this area.

a) Full disclosure: i lived in the Inner West for quite a few years, and a lot of my friends are there. That gives me personal reasons for spending time in these areas.

b) Despite the high price of Sydney real estate, and consequent gentrification, these areas are still more interesting and more diverse than the Eastern Suburbs, in my opinion. Better local pubs and bars, lots of restaurants, etc., etc. (Although Sydney pub culture, in my opinion, was fucked over by the state government decision to legalize poker machines in pubs and bars, turning many pubs from local watering holes with a good music scene into little more than smoke-filled gambling dens).

c) Ready access to pretty good public transport. Places like Newtown, Erskineville, Redfern, Stanmore, Macdonaldtown, etc. are right on the main train line, making it a ten-minute journey into the central business and shopping district. There are also good bus services down the main roads, Parramatta Road, King Street, Enmore Road, Glebe Point Road, etc.

d) Better walking than the Eastern Suburbs. Walking around the Inner West is easy and, for the most part, very safe. Things are pretty tightly packed in, so a half-hour walk can take you past lots of different places.

Anyway, that's my take on it. Make of that what you will. You need to make a decision based on the sort of life you want to lead in Sydney.

I did my undergrad degree at the University of New South Wales, which is in Randwick/Kensington. Because of this, i had quite a few friends in the Eastern Suburbs, and i spent quite a bit of time out there. Personally, i always found the Inner West much more appealing as a place to live.
 
I lived in Glebe for a year and would seriously recommend the Glebe/Newtown area. Nice pubs restaurants, there is a market on Glebe point road on the weekends. 20 minutes by bike to the central business district.

There was a biscuit factory near my house and each morning you could smell fresh biscuits baking, lovely.
 
mhendo said:
Personally, i always found the Inner West much more appealing as a place to live.
Cheers for that mhendo, I will definitely give a greater consideration to the inner west. I guess its easy to get distracted by the lure of sun, sea and surf of the eastern beaches.
 
I'd pretty much agree with everything that Mhendo said ... but as a pom who lived in Enmore/Newtown for two and a half years and am now back in London, I'd say you shouldn't discount the lure of the beach.

What you get in Sydney's Inner West is basically some wonderful restaurants, bars, shops, venues. For most Brits it's like living in one of the more interesting suburbs of London, except that it's cheaper and/or less crime-ridden.

Living at the beach gives you a completely different lifestyle. That said, most of the beaches are incredibly crowded, transport is difficult, and there's not the same quality and range of nightlife.

I might have hated living in a beach suburb - and if I'd chosen one, it would probably have been Clovelly, where the snorkelling is seriously some of the best anywhere, or North Bondi, which is more villagey than the section connecting the beach to Bondi Junction - but having returned to wintry England, I still think from time to time that I missed something not living somewhere where I could have a dip in the sea after work...
 
mr pat said:
Check out Randwick, thats where i'm living. 10 minute walk to Coogee beach/nightlife but quiet itself. It's alive with some of the best restuarants around...Asian/Western/Middle eastern. Bus services in to the city are quick & plentiful

Ahhh Coogee Bay hotel...many drunken summer evenings spent in there.

*sigh*
 
I lived in Newtown also btw.

Fantastic area to live. Brilliant pubs, clothes shops, restruants. Takes about 10 mins on the subway into the city. I feel the average urbanite would be most at home here. :cool:
 
spacemonkey said:
Ahhh Coogee Bay hotel...many drunken summer evenings spent in there.

*sigh*

my mate used to own and manage that back about 10 year ago...she still gets a 'far away' look in her eyes when she talks about it ;)

ps: just for arguments sake i still say fuck NSW move to QLD ;) :p :D
 
Right, still about 4 months till the gf and I move to Sydney but we are getting closer to knowing where we want to live.

Coogee is still top of the list. Clovelly is a possibility but have heard its slightly sleepy and boring. The 'inner-west' is also a consideration, particularly Newtown and Surry Hills. Problem is, like Clovelly, my gf and I haven't spent much time in this area and so can't make an informed decision.

Our budget is $350 (maximum) a week. Is that a reasonable amount to expect to pay in these areas?

We are also wondering whether or not to get a car. Ideally we'd like to avoid getting a gas guzzler thats likely to singlehandedly melt the ice caps but a selfish part in us also want to be able "see Australia" and that will be difficult without the use of a car. What do people think?

I really appreciate all your advice.
 
jodal said:
Our budget is $350 (maximum) a week. Is that a reasonable amount to expect to pay in these areas?
Well, i just had a look online and you can definitely get a place for less than $350. In the Eastern Suburbs, you'll probably not get anything more than a one or two bedroom apartment for that price, although there seems to be a reasonable selection of fairly clean-looking places. It should be a bit cheaper in the Inner West, and you might even get a small terrace house inside your budget.

If you want an idea of what's available, check out Domain, which has places for rent and for sale all over the country. Just plug in the name of your suburb or area, and your price range, and see what comes up. If you find something interesting, and want to know about the specific location, just let me know.
jodal said:
We are also wondering whether or not to get a car. Ideally we'd like to avoid getting a gas guzzler thats likely to singlehandedly melt the ice caps but a selfish part in us also want to be able "see Australia" and that will be difficult without the use of a car. What do people think?
This will depend, to a considerable extent, on where you end up living, and how much you want to travel when you're actually in Sydney.

In the Inner West it's pretty easy to get by without a car, especially if you're within walking distance of the train lines, or of the main roads where bus services are good. Being on the train line is best, as it allows you fast access to the city without having to worry about peak-hour traffic. But don't expect a top-level type of service; the City Rail system has been run down a bit by funding and service cutbacks, and it's not as frequent or reliable as services like the New York subway, Chicago El, or the London Underground (although it's quite a few years since i rode the tube, and i don't know how good it is now).

The Eastern Suburbs are harder to do without a car. There are bus services, and they're pretty good, but i've always liked being on a train line. Also, things are generally a bit more spread out there, and getting from one place to another without your own transportation can be a bit of a pain.

If you decide not to buy a car for your time in the city, it's worth noting that Sydney also has car sharing services like GoGet. I know people who use this service, and others who use similar services here in the US and in Canada, and they love them.

As for getting around the country, i've known quite a few visitors who buy a car to do a big trip, and who then sell it again when they get back to Sydney. Often, if you check the bulletin boards of the youth hostels, you can find people who are about to go home and who want to sell their car pretty cheap. One caveat here: if you're going to do any driving in the really isolated and arid parts of the country, either rent a car or buy a good one, because if you break down in the middle of nowhere, you could literally lose your life. If you're mainly thinking about doing weekend or week-long trips out of the city, and not a massive long trek, you might be better off living without a car in the city, and just renting one when you want to get away.

Australia, or at least the major cities and main routes, is also pretty well served by the national rail system, and by coaches. Of course, this doesn't really give you the luxury of taking your time and stopping where you feel like, but it is an alternative to consider.
 
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