Discussion in 'Dulwich Hamlet FC' started by Jimbob73, Apr 2, 2019.
The penalty and hatched celebrations
That steward seems to be getting a bit agitated at the front.
Quite embarrassing stewarding
The fan shouting "its a goal" at close quarters
before Dipo took the kick certainly worked on this occasion
goal keeper flinches
I do admire how a section of our fans mercilessly mock opposition goalkeepers - without being abusive and generally applaud them at the end of the game
Does anyone know what the red card was for?
I didn't see anything different than other spats of that kind that would normally get a yellow.
Those stewards were trying to keep our Supporters out of the hatched area after the final whistle!
They gave up when quite a few supporters moved down to the hatched area to applaud our players.
Chippenham was a nice club and those supporters and volunteers at the ground I spoke to were pleasant and welcoming, as were those we spoke to in the Prince of Wales micropub before and after the game. The stewards though, did have a thing about their hatched bits, even when a few of us celebrated the second goal and went to applaud the players at the end. The older chap to be fair, wasn’t that fussed but the female steward was fairly humourless as was the younger guy, although that was probably after he discovered that he’d been stickered!
He pushed a Chippenham player which probably does cross the violent conduct threshold, albeit not in a way that usually results in a red.
I was surprised by the red I actually said to someone I thought one of their players might walk, a two handed shove with some force into Nyron's back. I expected Nyron and the Chippenham player initially involved to get a yellow.
A couple of club officials stated they anticipated an appeal. I guess it will come down to exactly what the referees report states and what the video shows. If the report simply states it was for a push he deemed as violent conduct, and the video shows what I believe I saw, an appeal is unlikely to succeed.
You appeal against an error by the referee in his decision to pull a red. The fact the video will probably show it was bonkers to just card Nyron, and that two or three other players on each side pushed people, is neither here nor there in terms of an appeal.
Note I haven't refereed for a long time and the system may have changed so happy to be corrected if wrong.
The red card was for a headbutt or attempted headbutt
Look at that ridiculous steward. Twat.
Nyren came out the changing room after and said that even the referee advised him he could probably appeal it!!
Sums it up really.
The refereeing at this level has given us some (insert) decisions!
Nyron and a Chippenham player did move their heads towards each other, that's why I thought they would get a yellow each.
I wouldn't call it an attempted headbutt by either of them. It certainly wasn't a successful headbutt. Unless I missed a second incident I'd expect him to win an appeal over a headbutt
If the referee couldn't be certain what he saw, what the hell was he doing pulling out a red card? Hopefully the video recording will clearly show he didn't deserve to be sent off.
I suspect the Assistant subsequently advised him he probably made an error. The Assistant had a good view of the whole incident. The referee chose not to consult with him, which he probably now regrets....
If the referee has said this he should add a note on his report that he thinks it may have been erroneous. This may negate the need for video. He's heading for trouble if he's advised a player to appeal and doesn't mention it.
Just watched the highlights and that's not a red card.
I'd say it's inconclusive. You certainly wouldn't show a red on that evidence, but their player goads Nyren who then takes makes a movement towards him when he should just be walking away, and the referee couldn't really have had a better view so if he really advised Nyren to appeal why on earth did he send him off at the time? It was also a blatant foul on Nyren that was somehow given as a free kick the other way as he tried to regain his footing. And the Chippenham player involved had already been booked, so he was fortunate not to get a second yellow for his part in the incident. As Gavin suggests in his interview, that player was rather crafty and suckered Nyren into a reaction.
The offside call for their disallowed goal looks extremely tight. I reckon we probably got lucky there.
Really doesn't look like a straight red to me.
Great display by Hamlet though.
Quite a lot of the players in this division are this way inclined, hopefully we'll be wise to it next year.
It doesn't look like a straight red card offence, but that's not quite the same as conclusively proving that the referee was wrong in the first place which is probably the criterion for getting the suspension annulled. Nyren has an excellent disciplinary record over a long period of time and it would certainly be out of character if he did anything like that, so I hope we appeal and I hope we win. I'm just saying that anyone reviewing the incident will probably have other priorities, like not wishing to overrule a referee or set a precedent, if they feel the evidence doesn't conclusively prove the decision incorrect.
As I suggested earlier, it's hard to see how the referee could call that wrongly when you look at where he's standing. If he did get it wrong he must be fairly useless.
The number 5 for Chippenham was a little shit all game. And grinning in a cocky way as Clunis walked.
He wasn't that happy when I advised people to avoid him in the bar as the National went off "saying he'd fall quicker than a rocking horse over Beachers"
Mouthed something in reply...
So relieved to see their first goal disallowed, would have been against the run of play, as in many games this season. Great to see Dipo getting 2, and Thompson played very well and could have easily got on the scoresheet more than once. Love Nyren’s reaction to our second. Hopefully not a lengthy suspension.
A great away day and ride on the motorbike.
And with the Villa getting an away win too, I rode home with a big smile on my face.
Rightly or wrongly he was sent off for violent conduct. It will be 3 matches if the red card stands.
I moved into the hatches area at the final whistle, just to annoy the stewards! Nearly fucking killed me!It was actually the first game I’ve stood at, albeit leaning on barriers since my recent illness, in truth I was glad I did but it was extremely tiring & I shouldn’t really have done so, but another hurdle reached, so to speak. Back in the seats for the rest of the season to be on the safe side...
Oh dear... are you saying I’m about to come to a full stop?
Had a great day, excellent result. Both teams struggled to play on what is a terrible pitch, aren't there any rules at this level? probably one of the wonkiest bits of grass in the whole of Wiltshire! I couldn't see why Nyren was sent off at the game and watching the highlights still don't know. I had assumed he said something to the ref. Anyway hope to visit again next year
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