'Chimps beat humans in memory test'
- Thread starter editor
- Start date
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
An apology
It was naughty of me to bring up Aldebaran's posts elsewhere. There was nothing unreasonable about his post on this thread.
It was naughty of me to bring up Aldebaran's posts elsewhere. There was nothing unreasonable about his post on this thread.
littlebabyjesus said:
mmm... I always go "mysteriously" silent whenever I read/hear/see something that weird. It is sheer amazement of my part. Nothing else.
By the way, it wasn't you who came with strange cross thread references, you only jumped on the running train (and fell under it. As usual.)
But to answer your chimpansee question: Every part of creation worships God in its own way.
salaam.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Squirrels are weird tho - they can remember nut stores, but according to a mate in the US who used to shoot them they will go back to the exact spot you shot one about 5 minutes afterwards, which makes them really easy apparently - you just sit around, wait, shoot, collect, then sit around and wait until it comes snuffling back...
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Care to expand on that one?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Ok, given your lack of grace, I retract the apology. I think it's a perfectly reasonable question: Do you think it is possible to be a Muslim and not believe that Mohammed was a prophet from Allah?Aldebaran said:
It's a question that only needs a simple yes or no answer.
littlebabyjesus said:
I never said I didn't acept it, now you make it obvious you think it rewards a big thank you" (haha) and *because* you post an apology for your bandwagon jumping in this thread, I can't point out it is only what you do every time again.
First you need to define the intended meaning of "Muslim".
salaam.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I am not a Muslim. You are.Aldebaran said:
I think it is for you to define it.
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
Could you define what a muslim is? Or is it just any living thing thrust kicking and screaming into the glory of Allah's creation?
Jonti
what the dormouse said
Well, rather clearly the latter, as is the wont with all religions that rely on creation myths.
So would many scientists, for the point of science is to explain natural phenomena in natural terms -- that is, as far as possible, without invoking divine intervention. There's no such thing as a Jewish, Christian or Islamic science. Not HIndu, neither. There's only the project of explaining natural phenomena in natural terms.
I strongly disagree that, in the absense of a theory of God, no practical and useful arts can exist.Aldebaran said:
So would many scientists, for the point of science is to explain natural phenomena in natural terms -- that is, as far as possible, without invoking divine intervention. There's no such thing as a Jewish, Christian or Islamic science. Not HIndu, neither. There's only the project of explaining natural phenomena in natural terms.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Ok, I'll try again in the form of two questions.Aldebaran said:
Would you describe yourself as a Muslim? If so, in your opinion, following your understanding of what it means to call yourself Muslim (and if you feel the need to define this, feel free to), please answer this question:
Do you think it is possible to be a Muslim and not believe that Mohammed was a prophet from Allah?
Louloubelle
Well-Known Member
goldenecitrone said:How is asking him a question harassing him? Yet another thread hijacked by people whining about 'bullying'.
It is bullying and you are being a bully
This is meant to be a thread about chimps not a platform for you and littlebabyjesus to get your jollies by having a go at another poster for their religious beliefs
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I think you're being a bit high and mighty here.Louloubelle said:
This coming from one who highjacked a thread for smokers about smoker-friendly pubs to harangue them about their filthy habit.
Cross-thread referencing is permissible, in my opinion, if your intention is to highlight hypocrisy.
Louloubelle
Well-Known Member
littlebabyjesus said:I think you're being a bit high and mighty here.
This coming from one who highjacked a thread for smokers about smoker-friendly pubs to harangue them about their filthy habit.
Cross-thread referencing is permissible, in my opinion, if your intention is to highlight hypocrisy.
You see now you're doing it to me here too.
If you want to have a go about my views on the provision of smoking ares for smokers in pubs then do it on the relevant thread
Stop bullying people by following them around, you're just making yourself look stupid
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I'm not following anybody around. I just take my fallible human memory, such as it is, from one thread to another.Louloubelle said:
ETA: Just to be clear, I was saying that your insistence that people should not stray off topic is not consistent with your own behaviour elsewhere. I couldn't care less about your views on smoking.
Jonti
what the dormouse said
Hey, I can answer this one ... "there is but one God and Mohammed is His prophet."littlebabyjesus said:
I thought this was pretty standard basic stuff, along the lines of "Jesus, Son of God, was born of Mary a virgin, to suffer for our sins that we may attain eternal life in Paradise through Him."
This is Common Knowledge stuff, surely?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Forgive me, but you are not a self-professed Muslim. I want to hear Aldebaran's opinion of this. For instance, there are many self-professed Christians who do not believe in the virgin birth story.Jonti said:Hey, I can answer this one ... "there is but one God and Mohammed is His prophet."
I thought this was pretty standard basic stuff, along the lines of "Jesus, Son of God, was born of Mary a virgin, to suffer for our sins that we may attain eternal life in Paradise through Him."
This is Common Knowledge stuff, surely?
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
Louloubelle said:
But my question was about chimps. What's your contribution been? I'll ask Aldebaran whatever questions I like. He's perfectly capable of answering for himself if he chooses. And anyway, I really don't think Aldebaran needs your support. After all, he has the Almighty on his side. So butt out.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
I was in Colchester zoo some time ago and stood rooted to the spot between two enclosures, looking from one to the other I could not make my mind up which was more entertaining.
The enclosure on my left was the chimps, all gaily jumping from one branch to the other chattering to each other and swinging from their tails, and the enclosure on the right of me was the childrens play area where children were swinging from swings climbing on things and chattering away happily to each other.
But which to watch? and why had I come to a zoo? suddenly I had no idea at all!
The enclosure on my left was the chimps, all gaily jumping from one branch to the other chattering to each other and swinging from their tails, and the enclosure on the right of me was the childrens play area where children were swinging from swings climbing on things and chattering away happily to each other.
But which to watch? and why had I come to a zoo? suddenly I had no idea at all!
david dissadent
New Member
So you spending all day watching children was purely scientific yes?weltweit said:
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
weltweit said:
Probably safer watching the chimps in this day and age. Nobody has yet been arrested for downloading images of chimps onto their computer.
david dissadent
New Member
Not quite on topic but believing in the Virgin birth is not strictly necessary to be a christian. The apostles creed, or the nicene creed was adopeted to root out many of the variations of belief in the early church. Most specificaly Arianism, but as one can be an Arian and a Christian one can also believe that Jesus was the Christ just not born to a virgin or the son of God.Jonti said:Well, people can claim all sorts of things, but if they don't Believe in the Catechisms of their Faith, then they are misusing the English language; that or deluding themselves!
Similar threads
