Cheney Rushed to Hospital

[In Bloom]

I can't wait to see maggie and rumsfeldt mauled and eaten by lions.

Hardly fair on the lions. They'd choke on the poisonous old hag.

 

[oi2002]

Or maybe you guys wanted to end the sanctions and go back to supporting Saddam like the 1980's?

You all never really say

That does derserve correction. Us Lefties had Saddam's number in the 80s at a time when he was being given the freedom of Chicago for services to the US arms industry. Now that could be dumb luck as most slavishly follow the all America all of the time idea with a bigoted certainty that would make a Red Guard blush but allow us to be right occasionally.

In the early 80s some of us Leftie folk were just getting over the mass hangings in of our Iranian comrades (lots went to Uni in the UK) while complaining bitterly about this fascist bastard Saddam. He was DC's pet once the Shah had got his just deserts. The Shah never managed to torture and hang as many of the Iranian comrades as Khomeni but we put that down to him being a lazy Imperialist.

The minor US desk jockey that shook the Iraqi butcher's bloody mit we were certain would soon be forgotten. And when Saddam used Chemical weapons (no scarily vague WMD back then, we called a nuke a nuke) against Iran using US supplied equipment and we were all up arms about it for a couple of years as both the US and UK hotly denied that this had happened.

Memories were short of course, by the 90s for some useful idiots Saddam had transformed into an anti-Imperialist hero.

And I've no sympathy whatever for Cheney; that boy's going straight to Yankee hell. If there is one reason why DC rushed headlong towards Baghdad it's his dodgy ticker; a lot of better people have died because one old draft dodger was in hurry.

 

[rogue yam]

Nice One! I remember the bitch from hell coming in and seeing my area die and be colonised by yuppies I need to celebrate her passing. Just a shame it wasn't in 1981.

LOL! That is one of the funniest things I've yet seen on u75! "...(D)ie and be colonized by yuppies"! Too much. Ever hear of a guy named Yogi Berra? He was famous (in part) for saying things that were somewhat askew in a humorous way. He once (purportedly) said of a restaurant "Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded." Sort of sounds like your neighborhood, doesn't it. Of course what really happened was that Maggie routed the socialists, lifted some of the chains from the British economy, and as a result talented and hardworking people across the U.K. were better able to produce, prosper, and enjoy the fruits of their labor. Now, of course that meant that the lazy, the stupid, the asocial, and the inebriated in some cases had to move elsewhere to collect their dole and buy their hooch, but who cares? Besides them (you), I mean.

 

[rogue yam]

So would approx 30,000 Iraqis, 2,500 US + UK troops as well as any respect the US & UK had in the gulf, let's not talk about the billions of dollars the whole adventure has cost the US>

Well, 30,000 Iraqis (say) minus all the ones Saddam would have killed, of course. You lefties always leave that term out of the equation, for some reason.

 

[ViolentPanda]

LOL! That is one of the funniest things I've yet seen on u75! "...(D)ie and be colonized by yuppies"! Too much. Ever hear of a guy named Yogi Berra? He was famous (in part) for saying things that were somewhat askew in a humorous way. He once (purportedly) said of a restaurant "Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded." Sort of sounds like your neighborhood, doesn't it. Of course what really happened was that Maggie routed the socialists, lifted some of the chains from the British economy, and as a result talented and hardworking people across the U.K. were better able to produce, prosper, and enjoy the fruits of their labor. Now, of course that meant that the lazy, the stupid, the asocial, and the inebriated in some cases had to move elsewhere to collect their dole and buy their hooch, but who cares? Besides them (you), I mean.

I see you're firming up your reputation as an arsehole. well done.

 

[KeyboardJockey]

LOL! That is one of the funniest things I've yet seen on u75! "...(D)ie and be colonized by yuppies"! Too much. Ever hear of a guy named Yogi Berra? He was famous (in part) for saying things that were somewhat askew in a humorous way. He once (purportedly) said of a restaurant "Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded." Sort of sounds like your neighborhood, doesn't it. Of course what really happened was that Maggie routed the socialists, lifted some of the chains from the British economy, and as a result talented and hardworking people across the U.K. were better able to produce, prosper, and enjoy the fruits of their labor. Now, of course that meant that the lazy, the stupid, the asocial, and the inebriated in some cases had to move elsewhere to collect their dole and buy their hooch, but who cares? Besides them (you), I mean.

Only one word for that diatribe -- bullshit.

I grew up with people who lived through the hell of queuing up at the dock gate praying for work to feed their families and in many cases going away with no work an dno money for food. That scum Thatcher brought these hungry times back so don't you dare comeon here and waffle on about 'breaking the chains on the economy' the chains are still there and are now forged of a much harder material.

Talented and hardworking people are getting kicked in the teeth as adirect result of Thatcher's policies and those of her apprentice Blair. There are many of us who want to retrain to help our society and our economy but we cannot afford to do so.

You sir (I assume) need to read slightly more wider.

 

[KeyboardJockey]

Well, 30,000 Iraqis (say) minus all the ones Saddam would have killed, of course. You lefties always leave that term out of the equation, for some reason.

Add a zero on to that figure and that will be the result of Blairs mid east misadventure in about a year or so.

 

[rogue yam]

The Shah never managed to torture and hang as many of the Iranian comrades as Khomeni but we put that down to him being a lazy Imperialist.

That is precisely the thinking that brought Khomeni and the hangings (and a lot of other tragedy in a lot of other countries as well). You lot never learn.

 

[rogue yam]

There are many of us who want to retrain to help our society and our economy but we cannot afford to do so.

This is the leftist fallacy in its essence. "Retrain"? Get a job, lad. "Help our society"? Help yourself, mate. "(C)annot afford to do so"? You can't afford not to. So get busy.

 

[rogue yam]

Add a zero on to that figure and that will be the result of Blairs mid east misadventure in about a year or so.

What are you talking about?

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

This is the leftist fallacy in its essence. "Retrain"? Get a job, lad. "Help our society"? Help yourself, mate. "(C)annot afford to do so"? You can't afford not to. So get busy.

What amazing condescension.

 

[nino_savatte]

This is the leftist fallacy in its essence. "Retrain"? Get a job, lad. "Help our society"? Help yourself, mate. "(C)annot afford to do so"? You can't afford not to. So get busy.

Things aren't going to well for you - are they?

O Pbman, where art thou?

 

[KeyboardJockey]

What are you talking about?

If Saddam Hussain killed 30k by the time that Bush and Blairs middle east misadventure is over you will be able to times the number of Iraqi's dead through non natural causes by factor of 10.

 

[KeyboardJockey]

This is the leftist fallacy in its essence. "Retrain"? Get a job, lad. "Help our society"? Help yourself, mate. "(C)annot afford to do so"? You can't afford not to. So get busy.

What is he on about? or is it some sort of pean to the idea of step on your neighbour and count your wad. Sounds like some such shite anyhow.

 

[mears]

If Saddam had been able to prove that he had no WMD, what would have happened then?

Than the statu quo which supposedly was killing tens of thousands of Iraqi women and children.

 

[mears]

So would approx 30,000 Iraqis, 2,500 US + UK troops as well as any respect the US & UK had in the gulf, let's not talk about the billions of dollars the whole adventure has cost the US>

UN sanctions were placed on Iraq from August 6, 1990 until June, 2003. Sanctions on Iraq were the most comprehensive in modern history, following the first gulf war, which directly targeted water treatment plants,and electrical infrastructure It is estimated that over 500,000 children died as a direct result of economic sanctions, primarily of water borne disease.

http://vitw.org/archives/380

What you clowns wanted. The status quo

Humanitarians, all of you

 

[mears]

That does derserve correction. Us Lefties had Saddam's number in the 80s at a time when he was being given the freedom of Chicago for services to the US arms industry. Now that could be dumb luck as most slavishly follow the all America all of the time idea with a bigoted certainty that would make a Red Guard blush but allow us to be right occasionally.

In the early 80s some of us Leftie folk were just getting over the mass hangings in of our Iranian comrades (lots went to Uni in the UK) while complaining bitterly about this fascist bastard Saddam. He was DC's pet once the Shah had got his just deserts. The Shah never managed to torture and hang as many of the Iranian comrades as Khomeni but we put that down to him being a lazy Imperialist.

The minor US desk jockey that shook the Iraqi butcher's bloody mit we were certain would soon be forgotten. And when Saddam used Chemical weapons (no scarily vague WMD back then, we called a nuke a nuke) against Iran using US supplied equipment and we were all up arms about it for a couple of years as both the US and UK hotly denied that this had happened.

Memories were short of course, by the 90s for some useful idiots Saddam had transformed into an anti-Imperialist hero.

And I've no sympathy whatever for Cheney; that boy's going straight to Yankee hell. If there is one reason why DC rushed headlong towards Baghdad it's his dodgy ticker; a lot of better people have died because one old draft dodger was in hurry.

Who do you think supported Saddam more, the US or French? I say French. Funny how no one ever puts up a picture of Mr. Chirac and Saddam shaking hands.

If Mr Cheney is going to Yankee hell, is Mr. Chirac going to French hell?

 

[bfg]

So you've changed your tune slightly then to :"Yes, we're fighting a hypocritical fucking 'war' with the hope of manipulating Iraq for our own needs, and cocking up in the process, but hey, we're not as bad as those damn frenchies?"

 

[mears]

So you've changed your tune slightly then to :"Yes, we're fighting a hypocritical fucking 'war' with the hope of manipulating Iraq for our own needs, and cocking up in the process, but hey, we're not as bad as those damn frenchies?"

I'm saying you are intentionally singleing out one player in the game. Why is that? How can one mention US involvement in Iraq without mentioning France, Yugoslavia, Russia or Germany?

Its obviously about other issues for those who just mention the US.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Or maybe you guys wanted to end the sanctions and go back to supporting Saddam like the 1980's?

You all never really say

Instead, the sanctions were ended via the 101st Airborne.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Only one word for that diatribe -- bullshit.

I grew up with people who lived through the hell of queuing up at the dock gate praying for work to feed their families and in many cases going away with no work an dno money for food. That scum Thatcher brought these hungry times back so don't you dare comeon here and waffle on about 'breaking the chains on the economy' the chains are still there and are now forged of a much harder material.

Talented and hardworking people are getting kicked in the teeth as adirect result of Thatcher's policies and those of her apprentice Blair. There are many of us who want to retrain to help our society and our economy but we cannot afford to do so.

You sir (I assume) need to read slightly more wider.

Things were pretty tough way back when.

http://members.aol.com/deafdude2/lyric/lyrics/patchesccc.htm

 

[In Bloom]

This message is hidden because mears is on your ignore list.

You're getting very repetitive, you know

 

[Andy the Don]

Well, 30,000 Iraqis (say) minus all the ones Saddam would have killed, of course. You lefties always leave that term out of the equation, for some reason.

Watch out who you are calling a leftie fella..

Well I supose even Genghis Khan would be to the left of you..

 

[Andy the Don]

If Mr Cheney is going to Yankee hell, is Mr. Chirac going to French hell?

French hell, that's where all the cooks are British & all the lovers are American..

 

[nino_savatte]

UN sanctions were placed on Iraq from August 6, 1990 until June, 2003. Sanctions on Iraq were the most comprehensive in modern history, following the first gulf war, which directly targeted water treatment plants,and electrical infrastructure It is estimated that over 500,000 children died as a direct result of economic sanctions, primarily of water borne disease.

http://vitw.org/archives/380

What you clowns wanted. The status quo

Humanitarians, all of you

What about the air strikes carried out by the US and Britain during those 13 years?

And you haven't a humanitarian bone in your troll-like body.

 

[nino_savatte]

Things were pretty tough way back when.

http://members.aol.com/deafdude2/lyric/lyrics/patchesccc.htm

Exactly how relevant is Clarence Carter's song Patches to this conversation? It isn't and thanks for another classic derail.

 

[nino_savatte]

Oh pray do tell!

He was charged with tax evasion (though who knows what other charges he was guilty of).

On October 10, 1973, Agnew became the second Vice President to resign the office. Unlike John C. Calhoun, who resigned to take a seat in the Senate, Agnew resigned and then pled nolo contendere (no contest) to a criminal charge of tax evasion, part of a negotiated resolution to a scheme wherein he allegedly accepted $29,500 in bribes during his tenure as governor of Maryland. Agnew was fined $10,000 and put on three years' probation. He was later disbarred by the State of Maryland. His resignation triggered the first use of the 25th Amendment, as the vacancy prompted the appointment and confirmation of Gerald R. Ford as his successor. It remains one of only two times that the amendment has been employed to fill a Vice Presidential vacancy. The other time was when Ford chose Nelson Rockefeller to succeed him as Vice President. Ford hadn't been Nixon's first choice, however. Nixon's top three choices were the former Texas Governor John Connally, New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller and California Governor Ronald Reagan. Nixon thought Connally was too unpopular, and Rockefeller and Reagan unlikely to be confirmed by both Houses of Congress.

Agnew had been widely expected to succeed Nixon as the Republican Party's presidential nominee in the 1976 election before the Watergate scandal broke out. Agnew had always blamed Nixon for releasing the accusations of bribes and tax evasion in order to divert attention from the growing Watergate scandal that was engulfing Nixon's administration. As fate would have it, Nixon was forced from office but Agnew's earlier resignation and criminal charges ruined his hopes of becoming President. The two men never spoke to each other again, although Agnew did attend Nixon's funeral in 1994.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiro_Agnew

Crooks, every man jack of them!

 

[guinnessdrinker]

Who do you think supported Saddam more, the US or French? I say French. Funny how no one ever puts up a picture of Mr. Chirac and Saddam shaking hands.

If Mr Cheney is going to Yankee hell, is Mr. Chirac going to French hell?

what about them being equally as bad as each others, in those days?

 

[guinnessdrinker]

He was charged with tax evasion (though who knows what other charges he was guilty of).




Crooks, every man jack of them!

strangely enough, even though I was only in primary school at the time, I do vaguely remember the agnew affair. it is strange how powerful american memes can be....

 

[KeyboardJockey]

snip.... Yankee hell, QUOTE]


Yankee Hell Oh yes that must be that place where everyone pays proportional and fair taxes has a health service that is not privatised decent public facilities and are not afflicted by squalor ignorance and want.

Sounds a nice place to me.