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i think you'll find hollis capitulated a while back, he's currently serving out his punishment acting as a chair for william of walworth
 
very interesting

I think it depends where your right to call yourself 'Chartered' comes from. The Royal Charter grants a professional body Charter status. So I would suggest that your right to call yourself chartered is dependent on the rules of that organisation. Per the below it appears the Privy Council has allowed members of the ACCA the right to call themselves.. 'Chartered Certified Accountants'


Chartered certified accountant
ACCA obtained its royal charter in 1974 and became the Chartered Association of Certified Accountants
in 1984.
In September 1995, members voted at an extraordinary general meeting to amend the name of
the body to the Association of Chartered Public Accountants and to introduce the designation, chartered
public accountant. The proposal was part of a move for all the professional accountancy bodies to use
“chartered” in the descriptions and designations of their members. Inclusion of “public” in its name
would, ACCA argued, reflect the organisation’s position, status and history. The change would also be
in keeping with the origins of ACCA: the Institution of Certified Public Accountants merged with the
London Association in 1939. Finally, the CPA designation would give members a title which had
global resonance and standing – in keeping with the organisation’s own profile.

But on 7 December 1995, the Privy Council announced its rejection of the proposals. It was
concerned about the inclusion of the term public. On a more positive note, it did, however, agree
that any accountancy body that had a royal charter could be granted the right to use chartered as
part of the members’ designation.

In October 1996, the Privy Council officially gave its consent to ACCA changing its name to the
Association of Chartered Certified Accountants. It also ruled that, from 1 January 1997, members
could call themselves chartered certified accountants.


Full link here:

100 Year History of the ACCA

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yeah so you were wrong all along, we knew that ages ago :p

that stuff above is what i've been saying consistently for the last 4 pages
 
oisleep said:
yeah so you were wrong all along, we knew that ages ago :p

that stuff above is what i've been saying consistently for the last 4 pages

Christ you keep saying "your wrong/capitulated.. blah, blah, blah" <insert bullshit> without addressing the point I've just made. Read the posts properly.. or I'll shall start shouting 'Your wrong, your bullshitting' etc. etc.<insert more bullshit>

:mad: :mad:

:cool:
 
why, i already proved, using the evidence you quoted to prove me wrong (from your own institutes website) , that you are wrong - remember that?

the point you've just made/quotes, says

1) "that any accountancy body that had a royal charter could be granted the right to use chartered as part of the members’ designation" which support my point

2) says, "could" call themselves, doesn't say "have to" or "can only"
 
oisleep said:
why, i already proved, using the evidence you quoted to prove me wrong (from your own institutes website) , that you are wrong - remember that?

the point you've just made/quotes, says

1) "that any accountancy body that had a royal charter could be granted the right to use chartered as part of the members’ designation" which support my point

2) says, "could" call themselves, doesn't say "have to" or "can only"

But who has been granted this Royal Charter.. you personally, or your Institute? And where do you get your chartered status from?
 
doesn't matter, i'm a member of an organisation of chartered accountants, what does that make me a chartered surveyor?

anyway, your rules that you quoted from your own organisation's website is proof enough, it says it there in black and white :cool:
 
oisleep said:
doesn't matter, i'm a member of an organisation of chartered accountants, what does that make me a chartered surveyor?

anyway, your rules that you quoted from your own organisation's website is proof enough, it says it there in black and white :cool:

Yes - I'm not so sure i can agree with any of that..ho hum
 
you can't agree with a black and white statement in a set of rules, set down by your own organisation, that you posted yourself :confused:

but in anyway, this thread is boring the fuck out of me, so i can't imagine what it's doing to anyone else

you gonna give me the WOW treatment?
 
oisleep said:
you can't agree with a black and white statement in a set of rules, set down by your own organisation, that you posted yourself :confused:

See you're again simplifying ain't ya??
 
But you haven't just quoted a 'simple statement of fact'. And actually you're now relying on a very particular set of circumstances granted by my Institute. Something different to your original argument.
 
Damn, missed this thread and the chance to say:

"I want to be a lion tamer, chartered accountancy is so dull, dull tediously dull"



:)
 
Can i raise the pulse of the massed ranks of urbanites who are hanging on every word of this thread and give a legal opinion that to describe yourself as a chartered accountant when you're a member of ACCA not ICAEW would be seen as holdiing yourself out as something that you're not.

99.9% of people in the country wouldn't give a shit but the ICAEW would and they've got some heavies who'd come round and give you a severe auditing you wouldn't forget

then they'd sue you :)
 
Hollis said:
But you haven't just quoted a 'simple statement of fact'. And actually you're now relying on a very particular set of circumstances granted by my Institute. Something different to your original argument.

not at all, it was a response to a statment by yourself that under no circumstances could someone outwith the ICAEW call themself a chartered accountant, i proved you wrong, deal with it
 
rubbershoes said:
Can i raise the pulse of the massed ranks of urbanites who are hanging on every word of this thread and give a legal opinion that to describe yourself as a chartered accountant when you're a member of ACCA not ICAEW would be seen as holdiing yourself out as something that you're not.

99.9% of people in the country wouldn't give a shit but the ICAEW would and they've got some heavies who'd come round and give you a severe auditing you wouldn't forget

then they'd sue you :)

if you scroll back a page or so you'll see that ICAEW state the circumstances where you can, and they are fairly widespread

here

that, as far as i'm concerned ends the initial argument, which was under no circumstances could someone who is not from ICAEW/ICAS call themself/firm a chartered accountant

any other points stemming from this is another argument completely
 
oisleep said:
if you scroll back a page or so you'll see that ICAEW state the circumstances where you can, and they are fairly widespread

Yes. - But that's an entirely different argument, dependent on specific circumstances.. oh i'm repeating myself.

Why don't we just agree to differ, and let our, no-doubt, vast and fascinated audience decide?

:)
 
argghhhh, i gave you a circusmtance which refuted your claim that you can't call yourself a chartered accountant if you're not a member of ICAEW, therefore end of argument
 
oisleep said:
argghhhh, i gave you a circusmtance which refuted your claim that you can't call yourself a chartered accountant if you're not a member of ICAEW, therefore end of argument

No. not having it. - You really have changed your argument.
 
have you two thought about a fist fight to sort it out?

Mnay professionals these days find it's the most cost effective way of settling business disputes.
 
hollis, bollox, why did you then spend about three pages of thread trying to prove me wrong, then when i prove me right (on exactly the same argument) you say the argument has changed, complete and utter bollox, typical behaviour of an accountant as well may i add

i dunno rubbershoes, you saw what he did to william of walworth the other day, had him in tears nearly
 
oisleep said:
hollis, bollox, why did you then spend about three pages of thread trying to prove me wrong, then when i prove me right (on exactly the same argument) you say the argument has changed, complete and utter bollox, typical behaviour of an accountant as well may i add

i dunno rubbershoes, you saw what he did to william of walworth the other day, had him in tears nearly

Bollix. time to leave the thread I think.

:)
 
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