charles manson
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Thing is, i think i know where johnny is coming from with the hidden history of rock stuff - there are links, there are chains, some direct some not so, between all sorts of odd people, some interesting stuff you follow the richer family members backwards and forwards, the producers they came into contact with etc - it doesn't mean that tripe that manson turned out was any good or had any influence. It wasn''t and it didn't.
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firky said:
whats 'people like me' then?
actually don't bother, i couldn't give a fuck.
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butchersapron said:
straight off the top of my head
syd barrett - the madcap laughs
I wasn't but its like when I first heard pink floyd, the doors, soft machine and all that crap - I thought it was the most amazing thing in the world and had to tell everyone about it, and fought my corner - it does not mean they were seminal for a moment. Goes back to an argument I had with cheesy where I said you grow out of some music, she disagreed...
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firky said:
some music you do grow out of, some you don't. just for reference, i've not just 'discovered' manson or barrett, i've had both in my collection for years. i just thought a thread for manson would be appreciated. guess not.
syd isn't someone you 'grow out' of. cheesy is a very close personal friend of mine, she's mad about barrett and understandably so, he was a songwriting legend.
some music you don't grow out of. when i was 15 and getting over my first girlfriend i played ryan adams' Heartbreaker non-stop. i still do and it will be among my top albums for the rest of my life i'm sure.
he has done some pleasant music, i haven't heard much. what i have seen tho is the video interview of him in jail, he is very charismatic and and satisfyingly totally wacked out but kind of scarily sane. i will have to watch that again. he is one of those who would not conform at all and they are at least a bit brave and fascinating, to me.
bless - little kiddies and their serial killer fixations.
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Dubversion said:
got fuck all to do with him being a serial killer you patronising tossbag. its a massively influential record.
sod it, you're going back on ignore.
Bingo!
johnnymarrsbars said:
As others have already said, ^that's^ ludicrous.
Manson was undoubtably a charismatic man, and I've always rated his voice on Look At Your Game Girl. (-I've never heard the G'n'R cover of it.) The rest of the album is poor though; really, nothing special. As for it being a 'seminal record': the claim gets bandied around, but without much evidence. I'd actually be pretty surprised if even many psych-folk musicians claim it as a serious influence.
If only he'd spent a bit more time rehearsing his tunes instead of trying to instigate Helter Skelter...
Sunspots said:
precisely, lots of claims get bandied about, doesn't make them valid. he's the poster boy for the more fetif end of the industrial scene and the odious likes of Korn, all that.
Other than that - yeh, i was well into Manson. When i was 16
maya said:
when did you turn into my dad?
elevendayempire
Registered Loofah
"They" wasn't actually GN'R; it was Axl Rose and his gardener on guitar. I suspect if Slash and Izzy had been involved, it would've been good...johnnymarrsbars said:that GnR song was 'look at your game girl'. they covered it and made an absolute massacre of such a top song.
SG
seeformiles
Lost in the wood
johnnymarrsbars said:that GnR song was 'look at your game girl'. they covered it and made an absolute massacre of such a top song.
What about "Never Learn not to Love" by the Beach Boys (off 20/20) - that's a Manson track ("Cease to Exist") but he gets no credit on the sleeve. Good track though.
Negativland
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johnnymarrsbars said:
Brian fucking Jonestown Massacre, heroes of psychedelic rock.
Know who else likes Manson? Kasabian.
Negativland said:
heh
Negativland said:
case closed
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