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Champion Hill: Proposed Ground Redevelopment

dcdulwich

Well-Known Member
Gravel resin, like you see around tree bases.
Ah, the stuff that starts to break up come the first frost of the season when used in a situation where people actually walk on it.

Still in Canada then, I hope, given the time of your posting? Otherwise you’re seriously missing out on your beauty sleep!
 

EDC

A Slightly Less Invisible Cyber Fan These Days
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Ah, the stuff that starts to break up come the first frost of the season when used in a situation where people actually walk on it.

Still in Canada then, I hope, given the time of your posting? Otherwise you’re seriously missing out on your beauty sleep!
Yep.
 

blueheaven

Well-Known Member
Who was trusting of them?
The Memorandum of Understanding for one thing, which wasn't worth the paper it was written on. Plus many fans believing all their vague figures about how massively indebted the club was.
Possibly, but what else could the fans have done? At the time it seemed like there was very little choice other than to support the plans and hope we got the new stadium - I wouldn't equate that to saying we all universally trusted Hadley/Meadow.

The Friends of Green Dale doesn't exist to help the club because it's, well, the Friends of Green Dale. Last time around, suggesting to the club that there should be a Plan B to an pplication that was almost bound to fail was helpful, even though the suggestion was ignored.
The lack of a 'Plan B' will, I suspect, rear its head again - but what option for a Plan B is there really? So much hinges on what Meadow's planned next step will be when (I'd say 'if' but I think it's 'when') their new plan is rejected. Will they try again? Will they look to sell up? Will they evict the club and sit on the land? Is there any hope of having them actually communicate this to the club?

That 'shithole piece of Greendale' is protected as MOL, so your or my opinion on that is worthless.
I agree with you on MOL. It's there for a reason and we shouldn't be building on it. Whether or not it's a shithole, or mismanaged, or needs improvement, is a different argument. The fact is there is a perfectly usable football stadium already right next to the MOL, so why should Meadow be given permission to move it onto MOL just to allow them to make a profit? It's not a community need - it's a corporate one.
 

B.I.G

Well-Known Member
Possibly, but what else could the fans have done? At the time it seemed like there was very little choice other than to support the plans and hope we got the new stadium - I wouldn't equate that to saying we all universally trusted Hadley/Meadow.



The lack of a 'Plan B' will, I suspect, rear its head again - but what option for a Plan B is there really? So much hinges on what Meadow's planned next step will be when (I'd say 'if' but I think it's 'when') their new plan is rejected. Will they try again? Will they look to sell up? Will they evict the club and sit on the land? Is there any hope of having them actually communicate this to the club?



I agree with you on MOL. It's there for a reason and we shouldn't be building on it. Whether or not it's a shithole, or mismanaged, or needs improvement, is a different argument. The fact is there is a perfectly usable football stadium already right next to the MOL, so why should Meadow be given permission to move it onto MOL just to allow them to make a profit? It's not a community need - it's a corporate one.
There is a community need for Dulwich to have a lease. So unless someone buys the land for reasons other than commercial moving the stadium is the best option no?
 

Al Cunningham

Brockley Hamlet
Looking at the financial situation is the biggest difference from before (at CH) that we keep the gate and bar monies since the move back rather than before when the money went to Meadows and they gave us a budget.
 

editor

hiraethified
Opportunity to "drop in" at the Club Bar on 1st and 2nd Feb to see the latest plans for redevelopment. I'm guessing you'll all have already seen this as it is all over the internet, twitter, the usual channels but just in case you hadn't, details are here: Champion Hill - Exhibition
I'll put up a post on Buzz in the morning. It's quite hard to be polite about Meadow given their loathsome behaviour and the fact that less than a year ago they were doing their utmost to destroy the club forever.
 

Pink Panther

Well-Known Member
I'll put up a post on Buzz in the morning. It's quite hard to be polite about Meadow given their loathsome behaviour and the fact that less than a year ago they were doing their utmost to destroy the club forever.
If any Meadow lackeys attempt to engage me in conversation about the proposals I think I'll be struggling to remain calm and polite.
 

editor

hiraethified
"Most of what Brixton Buzz thinks of Meadow as a company is pretty much unprintable, but we will endeavour to keep an open mind when we attend these drop in sessions." :thumbs:
:D

Judging by their illustration, the proposed stadium is awful. It has zero cover on three sides of the pitch, the sightlines look no better than they are now (i.e. terrible unless you're in the stand) and the capacity is far too small.

We attract a lot of young families and it's simply unacceptable not to offer decent cover for them and everyone else and the new ground needs to provide facilities in line with a club now attracting regular 3,000+ crowds (and turning away hundreds more).
 

Pink Panther

Well-Known Member
:D

Judging by their illustration, the proposed stadium is awful. It has zero cover on three sides of the pitch, the sightlines look no better than they are now (i.e. terrible unless you're in the stand) and the capacity is far too small.

We attract a lot of young families and it's simply unacceptable not to offer decent cover for them and everyone else and the new ground needs to provide facilities in line with a club now attracting regular 3,000+ crowds (and turning away hundreds more).
We basically need something like Dartford, which has proper terraces, is entirely covered, with a lot of environmentally friendly features and doesn't intrude upon the surrounding landscape.
 
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