Champion Hill: Proposed Ground Redevelopment

Discussion in 'Dulwich Hamlet FC' started by Fingers, Aug 26, 2015.

  1. Al Crane

    Al Crane Well-Known Member

    No. This is part of Southwark Council's new local plan policies that they are currently proposing and separate to any proposals put forward by Meadow BUT the Council make specific reference to the new Southwark Plan proposals in their Statement of Case relating to the Planning Inquiry. They note that the New Southwark Plan proposals should have progressed to 'submission' stage by the time of the inquiry and therefore weight should be given to emerging policies.

    If the proposals as drafted are approved in their current form then not only will this add weight to the case against the proposed redevelopment of Champion Hill but will in effect set in place a strategy that allows redevelopment on all land except the pitch – this is a gross misunderstanding of the Club’s needs both now and for any future progression.

    As most supporters will be aware, for the Club to have no basic ancillary facilities such as changing rooms, turnstiles, bar etc. would mean that the Club would in effect be playing at County level or below. Put simply, the Council’s lack of proper consideration for the Football Club in the proposed Plan risks the future of the Club.
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  2. Dulwich Mishi

    Dulwich Mishi Old Skool Terrace Dinosaur-embracing the new-veau!


    Firstly, there are no 'Hadley' fpans. The company that control things are Meadows Residential, these are 'Meadows' plans.

    The application from them was not heard by Southwark Council, so Meadows appealed about the delay in not hearing the planning application, and it is now going to the Planning Inspectorate, which I believe is either a government or independent thingy, which overrides the Council, and which the council must abide by. This is due to be heard, the last I heard, starting sometime in December, at the end of this year.

    The Southwark Plan is a borough wide plan, with no specific link to the Meadows plans.

    Think I've got that right, happy to stand corrected.
    Last edited: Jun 21, 2017
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  3. Jimbob73

    Jimbob73 The Wanley Road Massive

    Ok thanks, can't say I understand it all though!
  4. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

  5. DHST

    DHST Well-Known Member

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  6. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    if anyone would like to write an update to this so I can spread the word on Brixton Buzz, I'd be much obliged :)
  7. Latahs

    Latahs Well-Known Member

    Main points here are:

    Some cause for celebration as pressure from DHFC (committee, DHST + supporters) means that the FC's ancillary facilitates are 'in principle' being protected from re-development in Southwark's updated plan, which partially safe-guards DHFC's ability to remain playing at this level of the pyramid.

    However, the council are cagey about exactly how 'much' of the area the ancillary facilities are sitting on is being protected. This might mean that they would force the football club to operate in facilities which are smaller than they are now (like we're not over-capacity on matchday's or anything!:facepalm:;))

    So we still need people to write to the council expressing their support for the club to be allowed to operate on the area it currently occupies (at the very least) and to be allowed to expand in future.
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  8. MrFouldsy

    MrFouldsy Active Member

    What I don't understand is why Meadow don't just employ a decent lawyer and sort this out? It's in their interest.
  9. Al Crane

    Al Crane Well-Known Member

    Because this is a Southwark Council consultation and it's not within Meadow's power to do anything other than respond to the consultation.
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  10. Nivag

    Nivag Well-Known Member

    There were surveyors out on the astroturf pitch this afternoon measuring various points.
  11. Fingers

    Fingers From Tuscany SE22

    The Astroturf pitch is getting done up. Flood lights repaired, holes repaired and such so they were probably there for that.
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  12. liamdhfc

    liamdhfc Well-Known Member

    Is it? I'm pretty sure Meadow won't spend another penny on it.
  13. YTC

    YTC Human Man

    perhaps the council?
  14. Dulwich Mishi

    Dulwich Mishi Old Skool Terrace Dinosaur-embracing the new-veau!

    There is work being done on it at the moment, Chris has told me.
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  15. Fingers

    Fingers From Tuscany SE22

    Yeah Chris told me as well. One of our younger fans approached them about it and suggested it could be fixed up and hired out to make some money. And they went along with it.
  16. YTC

    YTC Human Man

    Maybe that money could have kept Kottoy..
  17. Dulwich Mishi

    Dulwich Mishi Old Skool Terrace Dinosaur-embracing the new-veau!

    My guess, and only a guess, is that it needs to be done up back to a playing standard, as to how it roughly was under the old lease from the council...but as I say, that's a guess, which could be wide of the mark.
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  18. Latahs

    Latahs Well-Known Member

    Was anymore light shed on this over the weekend?

  19. YTC

    YTC Human Man

  20. Latahs

    Latahs Well-Known Member

    OK, so it's officially being improved for the commercial reasons stated above then...

  21. YTC

    YTC Human Man

    Thats what we'd assume! Probably a combo of having to repair them for council standards and Owners trying to make some money..
  22. sleaterkinney

    sleaterkinney Well-Known Member

    We should repair the fence for a laugh.
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  23. EDC

    EDC A Slightly Less Invisible Cyber Fan These Days

    Not to mention Health and Safety.
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  24. MrFab_JP

    MrFab_JP Member

  25. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    Haters everywhere. Now I know how Tamplin feels.

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  26. sleaterkinney

    sleaterkinney Well-Known Member

    Interesting detail on the Greendale lease, I thought it had expired.
  27. PartisanDulwich

    PartisanDulwich Well-Known Member

    think we are heading to a crunch point with the owners

    need to ensure we have a clear line from the Supporters Trust at this key point
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  28. hipipol

    hipipol Peckham Wry

    Good luck all - lets hope the council decide to bulldoze Sainsbastards and give the land over, thought I'd stick this here coz:-
    1 This thread seems anorak friendly
    2 Though tangential it does exhibit mild levels of correlation
    3 Its fascinating
    Londons Lost Football Grounds
  29. Dulwich Mishi

    Dulwich Mishi Old Skool Terrace Dinosaur-embracing the new-veau!

    Sorry, I don't understand about bulldozing Sainsburys. If Sainsburys hadn't been built, the whole development including our current ground, we would simply have folded at the turn of the Nineties!

    What we actually need if for some form of housing, preferably with a decent social housing level included, to be built on our current ground; which would allow a proper, adequately designed one to be built on the Greendale wasteland next door as part of it all.
  30. darryl

    darryl this wasn't supposed to happen

    Not really quite sure where to put this, but wanted to put it somewhere: this is the Land Registry record for Champion Hill, which confirms Greendale Property Company of the Isle of Man bought it for £5.75m in 2014. It doesn't have the full covenants in it.

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