Catalogue of arguments for the existence of God

[Corax]

God rocks.

 

[TopCat]

Religious people have a lower incidence of mental illness, suicide and have a significantly shorter grieving time when bereaved.

Not that I'm religious.

Making so much effort to attack the underpinnings of someone's religion seems about as intelligent and purposeful as going out of your way to slag of someone elses interior decorating.

You are just being silly no? I can't recollect anyones taste in interior design causing war, hatred, bigtory and abuse...

 

[TopCat]

Oh and I must add that if you have faith in "god" you are mentally ill.

 

[Corax]

Tired, offensive bigotry. Love it, I do.

 

[Idaho]

You are just being silly no? I can't recollect anyones taste in interior design causing war, hatred, bigtory and abuse...

So should we ban water, oil, and skin colour because they cause war, bigotry and hatred?

 

[TopCat]

Who is trying to ban anything? I just enjoy ripping the piss out of deluded people...

 

[Corax]

Ha Ha.

 

[ICB]

Bit of a fish in a barrel hunt tho innit TC?

 

[TopCat]

yeah it is, I don't go looking for it though, but when they land in your lap...

I recently moved and look forward to the Jehova's visiting for the first (and no doubt only) time. They only ever come once and when I invite them in for a chat about faith they get all troubled and have to go back to the Kingdom Hall for re-programming...

 

[kropotkin]

I used to do that as a teenager. Invite them in, give them tea and biscuits and then chat for hours.

 

[TopCat]

The greedy look they get when they get invited in. it's best to wait untill one turns up on his own. Untill this point I tell them I have not made up my mind about GOD...

But having a debate about ephifinay (sp) and faith and mental illness usually does the trick...

 

[XerxesVargas]

Who is trying to ban anything? I just enjoy ripping the piss out of deluded people...

Ripping the piss? Your doing a terrible job of it then.

Unless of course you consider that the BNP just "rip the piss" out of black people.

 

[Sneeze]

Hello.
Sorry, was away for the weekend and missed the rest of the thread.

Does anyone think that religious opinion and thought should be given respect, and not mocked? If so, why?

I'm 100% athiest.

However I am fully aware that faith in God or god(s) has given great comfort to many billions of people whilst at the lowest point in their lives.

Why should that be mocked?

 

[TopCat]

Ripping the piss? Your doing a terrible job of it then.

Unless of course you consider that the BNP just "rip the piss" out of black people.

I think I do ok. Oh you can piss off with your silly straw man arguments...

 

[TopCat]

I'm 100% athiest.

However I am fully aware that faith in God or god(s) has given great comfort to many billions of people whilst at the lowest point in their lives.

Why should that be mocked?

Smack gives many comfort, I tend to be scathing about that too...

Whereas religous people have caused many many others to reach the lowest point of their lives.

 

[ICB]

Ripping the piss? Your doing a terrible job of it then.

Unless of course you consider that the BNP just "rip the piss" out of black people.

Were anyone daft enough to take such a ridiculous comparison seriously they'd have every right to be far more offended by it than anything TC had to say in this thread.

Bernie Williams knew what he was on when he said "we should be more intolerant of those who are intolerant of intolerance".

 

[slaar]

I like this one:

371. ARGUMENT FROM EAR SHAPE

1) A drunken twentyish guy pontificates about ear shape and evolutionary processes.
2) His girlfriend rebuts his assertion and proclaims intelligent design.
3) She's cute, so he's not going to argue with her.
4) Therefore, God exists.

 

[Corax]

People seem to have a problem seeing the distinction between the christian faith and it's churches. I don't subscribe to any denomination. I disagree with the very concept.

I object to being generalised and pigeon-holed by the type of muppets who get off on viciously denigrating people but are running out of PC targets.

 

[bmd]

MrMalcontent said


hello there.
Because it is totally false, and falshoods should never be accorded the respect given to things that are true. They should be ridiculed and opposed at every turn until the stupid irrational bollocks is consigned to history.

Is that too "pompous"?

Faith helps a lot of people get by, drag theirselves through their lives. Not everyone is as lucky as you and me. Why would you want to take that away from them?

 

[XerxesVargas]

Were anyone daft enough to take such a ridiculous comparison seriously they'd have every right to be far more offended by it than anything TC had to say in this thread.

Bernie Williams knew what he was on when he said "we should be more intolerant of those who are intolerant of intolerance".

Of course i was being facetious, this whole thread is facetious. It was an overstatement I agree.

 

[Sneeze]

Smack gives many comfort, I tend to be scathing about that too...

Whereas religous people have caused many many others to reach the lowest point of their lives.

Funny you mention smack.

Last October my best mate OD'd on smack. I was in Wales at the time and got a call at 8am saying to get back to London as soon as possible as he wasn't going to last the day. His mum had been called in from the Isle of Man, so they thought it very serious. He'd swallowed sick and burnt away much of his lungs.

I had a four hour drive to get there. We didn't have any music on in the car and neitehr me or my girlfriend spoke much, we were very abosorbed in our thoughts.

Occasionaly as we drove it would get too much, knowing my best mate is lying there about to die and tears will spill from my eyes. At these moments, in my head I would ask God to spare him, something like, 'Oh God, please don't let him die' you know the usual.

As I said I'm 100% athiest.I fully follow eveyone of your arguments that you may have to rubbish the existence of God and have thought that religious people are fruit-loops and religion is bad for causing wars and feelings of guilt and so on...

But my asking God to save Dave gave me the slightest glimmer of comfort. Why that should be the case I don't know. What I do know is that fuck all else that horrible day even came fucking close.

It set me thinking about my own blinkered view of the subject. Whilst many wars have been fought over religion and many lives made miserable from religious guilt, is it right to label every person of faith as bad/idiotic/moronic/to-be-mocked, just because of the actions of a few?



Oh and after a week in a coma in intensive care, Dave pulled through.

 

[ICB]

Of course i was being facetious, this whole thread is facetious. It was an overstatement I agree.

That's good then. Just checking like.

But my asking God to save Dave gave me the slightest glimmer of comfort. Why that should be the case I don't know.

I've done similar - put it down to the fact that I was fairly successfully brainwashed for the most significant part of my development. There are nasty skeletons rattling away that'll never get permanently buried.

I'm less scathing about smack than religion, I don't have any religious friends....

Good for Dave

 

[Poi E]

I've done similar - put it down to the fact that I was fairly successfully brainwashed for the most significant part of my development. There are nasty skeletons rattling away that'll never get permanently buried.

I'm less scathing about smack than religion, I don't have any religious friends....

Good for Dave

Ah, so it's personal issues you have to work out, not theological. Sounds the same as for those who believe. Having no strong opinion one way or the other is the best option, IMO.

 

[Demosthenes]

Oh and I must add that if you have faith in "god" you are mentally ill.

From a strictly rational point of view, the idea that you exist is a delusion as well. Ok it keeps you going, and so on, and makes you consider your future, and enhances your survival prospects, but strictly speaking, "You" are/is an illusion generated by your brain to enhance your survival prospects.

So we're all mentally ill.

I hope that clears that one up.

 

[blamblam]

From a strictly rational point of view, the idea that you exist is a delusion as well.

Er actually it's not

So we're all mentally ill.

Speak for yourself matey - you might not know but some of us have seen your crazy-ass posts on other BBs aswell...

As for religion - it's fucking stupid. Anyone who believes that bollocks deserves a good ridiculing

 

[Corax]

As for religion - it's fucking stupid. Anyone who believes that bollocks deserves a good ridiculing

Oh. You again.

 

[Poi E]

Er actually it's not


Speak for yourself matey - you might not know but some of us have seen your crazy-ass posts on other BBs aswell...

As for religion - it's fucking stupid. Anyone who believes that bollocks deserves a good ridiculing

I take it from your user name that you're of some denomination of the Marxist/Leninist faith. Boy, you guys have got a LOT of faith.

 

[Demosthenes]

Er actually it's not


Speak for yourself matey - you might not know but some of us have seen your crazy-ass posts on other BBs aswell...

As for religion - it's fucking stupid. Anyone who believes that bollocks deserves a good ridiculing

100% angry.

Glad you and others have seen my crazy-ass posts. Tell us some more.

Poi, you couldn't have said anything worse to icepick than that. Actually he's a doctrinaire anarchist, and as such hates Trotskyists. He may well take it as a deliberate insult. Trotsky was killed with an icepick, hence the name.

Anarchism requires even more faith than trot-leninism, though. These people actually believe that society will spontaneously transform itself into an anarchist Utopia and we'll dismantle the apparatus of the state, without ever voting for anyone to do that for us.

 

[bosco]

Is that too "pompous"?

yes.

 

[bosco]

As for religion - it's fucking stupid. Anyone who believes that bollocks deserves a good ridiculing

don't you realise that the people you ridicule are ridiculing you right back?

how about we just leave the ridiculing out of it all together and have a bit of respect for diversity?