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Carol Singing in Parliament Square

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Badger Kitten

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Anybody game?
You are cordially invited to a public carol service in Parliament Square at 6pm on Wednesday the 21st of December 2005.

This inclusive service will contain both Christian and secular verse, and is expected to last no more than an hour.

Candles and song sheets will be made available, with donations going to Medical Aid for Iraqi Children.

Legal Implications:
Please note that if you attend this carol service, it will classify as a spontaneous demonstration (of faith, hope, joy and/or religious tolerance) and there is a possibility that you will be cautioned or arrested under Section 132 of the Serious and Organised Crimes and Police Act 20
 
I'm sorry to say I can't make it.

I've told a load of people about the event, but for various reasons I really can't afford to risk getting arrested right now.
 
I have to say I think this is a brilliant idea and about time people took on board a broader issue in taking on our politicians and ruling establishment. Civil rights arte in danger of being eroded and made impotent in this country. Whatever the issue, peoples right to protest and gather in areas like Parliament Sq are a fundamental right of democracy and the democratic process.

I may well saunter along but I warn you my voice is a bit fucked these days so ear muffs might be a good idea.

Anyone bringing a set of drums?
 
See you there, don't forget to print out the carols...

Also I must remind myself and everyone else to stay on topic - it's a carol service so I am leaving my Bliar placard at home

by the organisers said:
We humbly request that those who attend do not bring placards, banners or circulars to this event.
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Programme:
(Introduction and welcome)
Come All Ye Faithful
Away in a Manger
Little Drummer Boy
The Twelve Days of Christmas
Deck the Halls
Good King Wenceslas
The First Noel
Joy to the World
We Wish You a Merry Christmas
Jingle Bells
Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer
Santa Claus Is Comin' to Town
(Message of thanks followed by a one-minute silence)
Amazing Grace
God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen
Hark! the Herald Angels Sing
Silent Night
(The Lord's Prayer; led by Brian Haw)

Legal Implications:
Please note that if you attend this carol service, it will classify as a spontaneous demonstration (of faith, hope, joy and/or religious tolerance) and there is a possibility that you will be cautioned or arrested under Section 132 of the Serious and Organised Crimes and Police Act 2005
 
TAE said:
I'm sorry to say I can't make it.

I've told a load of people about the event, but for various reasons I really can't afford to risk getting arrested right now.
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People are seriously starting to scare me now. Is it really likely that we'll get arrested? :confused:
 
Chuck Wilson said:
Nipping down yourself are you or aren't you into gesture politics anymore?
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why not start a debate on it somewhere else, and leave this thread for informal chat rather than bickering?
 
trashpony said:
People are seriously starting to scare me now. Is it really likely that we'll get arrested? :confused:
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If it were some local church doing it without realising that it's illegal, they'd probably get a warning from the police and the singers would walk off grumbling.

But this has been advertised as a direct challenge to the law in question, and I would expect the police to be rather unsympathetic.

In fact I thought the whole point is to get the police to arrest people for carol singing, to show how stupid the law really is.

BBC NEWS said:
A Scotland Yard spokeswoman was not able to comment on whether a carol service constituted a demonstration and said a decision about whether to take action would be taken on the day.
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Well that's an interesting development then.

The police cannot tell us whether or not a certain action would or would not be breaking the law?
 
bluestreak said:
why not start a debate on it somewhere else, and leave this thread for informal chat rather than bickering?
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Sorry I was under the impression that this was the place for debate and informal chat. Your post gives the impression that there is a left wing monothought Urban censorship gang going round suppressing debate.

Do you know what this protest hopes to achieve?
 
Chuck Wilson said:
left wing monothought Urban censorship gang
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Woohoo! urban buzzword bingo jackpot!

I'm not sure why you're having such trouble understanding the motives for this protest, but I'll explain it again: it is to highlight and protest against a law against "unauthorised" peaceful protests around Parliament.

Perhaps you don't think that the right of the people to peacefully protest outside their democratically elected government is one that's worth fighting for, but some here clearly do.
 
Badger Kitten said:
Legal Implications:
Please note that if you attend this carol service, it will classify as a spontaneous demonstration (of faith, hope, joy and/or religious tolerance) and there is a possibility that you will be cautioned or arrested under Section 132 of the Serious and Organised Crimes and Police Act 20
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I asked this elsewhere an no-one seem to be able to answer so here goes again:-
Just for clarification are you certain:-Section 132 of the Serious and Organised Crimes and Police Act 2005.
applies when parliament is not sitting.
 
editor said:
Woohoo! urban buzzword bingo jackpot!

I'm not sure why you're having such trouble understanding the motives for this protest, but I'll explain it again: it is to highlight and protest against a law against "unauthorised" peaceful protests around Parliament.

Perhaps you don't think that the right of the people to peacefully protest outside their democratically elected government is one that's worth fighting for, but some here clearly do.
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Damn, I thought someone else might do me for copyright!

The point is is that the carol service is not illegal as Tobyjug has pointed out and perleez I am passionately in favour of protest but equally passionately in favour of being clear on what protest hope to achieve.

I will be with you in spirit from Stockport where citizens here roam free from such legislation.
 
editor said:
Really? I've just skimmed through the mile-long Serious Organised Crime and Police Act 2005 and can't find any mention of this 'only applies when Parliament is sitting" caveat.

Could you point that bit out to me please? (I trust you're not taking what tobyjug says as a, err, FACT!! without checking it)
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I don't really feel that 'skimming' is a sufficient response in this case. Anyway have been given the impression that Tobyjug knows what he is talking about.
 
editor said:
Could you point that bit out to me please? (I trust you're not taking what tobyjug says as a, err, FACT!! without checking it)
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Please give some indication as to where I have stated a fact about section 132. I asked a fucking question you arsehole.
 
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