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Ms T

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Who would have thought a programme about adult literacy would be so gripping and emotional. I actually found it quite upsetting, but it was wonderful to see people actually learning to read for the first time. I found Linda particularly interesting - how could such an intelligent woman, with such a thirst for knowlege and a love of books, be unable to read? And the story of Stuart, the plumber's assistant who was ignored at school and sat GCSEs which he had no chance of passing, made me angry. :mad:

Anyone else see this?
 
I did, didn't realise it's a series will definitely watch the next one. It's great that it's showing a range of people who can't read or write
 
Beadle's heartfelt and scathing criticisms of the Skills for Life (SfL) Adult Literacy Core Curriculum and the official teaching resources are engrossing.

I don't agree with everything he has said. I'm not convinced by his comment that the literacy materials are really designed for people who are not native speakers of English. It was also not at all clear why he felt the literacy lesson he observed in Southwark - Was it Southwark? It somewhere in south London - was "incompetent". Harsh stuff! What had that poor teacher done so badly? We saw very little of the lesson, but it was obviously a much higher level course that the course Beadle had to prepare for his beginner and near-beginner readers.

However, I do agree with him that the official SfL materials are not good for beginner readers. Insofar as I understand it, when they were prepared, there was an assumption that someone who joins an Entry Level 1 class will not really be completely illiterate. However, as was shown in the programme, there most certainly are adults who are genuinely illiterate.

I gather from some notes that C4 has put out about the series that Beadle is going to go on to make further criticisms, including pointing out that the SfL project, as it works at the moment, is geared to getting qualifications for people who are already quite literate. This is very true and I'm delighted that this point is being made on TV.

It is not wrong to help people to brush up their punctuation and spelling and, after a bit of exam practice, gain a Level 1 or Level 2 National Test qualification in literacy. (L2 is supposedly equivalent to A-C grades at GCSE and L1 to lower grades at GCSE.) That's what I do and I often enjoy it. More importantly, getting the qualifications is very good for the morale of the students and may help some of them get jobs that would not have been open to them otherwise. They even learn a few things along the way.

The trouble is that the people who have the greatest need - like many on this evening's programme - tend not to get the help they need. The biggest reason for that, I think, is that they are the hardest to persuade to join courses.

The government and the education bureaucrats should stop congratulating themselves and each other and pretending that all the qualifications gained indicate great progress for previously illiterate or fairly illiterate people. Instead, they should admit that much of the SfL effort has involved certification (at L1 & L2) rather than education of those with the greatest need.
 
ta JHE.

Most people who need help or have had help in the passed don't know study material has change. i.e the cat in the tree book are long gone thanks fuck.
that on of the most off putting thing. Being given baby books with big pictures.

Most local library have adult learning classes now.
 
I was really sad that he couldn't do much for the bloke wearing the hat- I can't remember his name. I hope he gets a bit more attention next time. Linda was obviously a clever woman who desered to do well (but she was fucking annoying). I really really liked the blonde mum, can't remember her name either, but him saying that she could go to uni if she wanted to after a few years made me feel a bit emotional... :o
 
I missed last night (school of Rock was on) But from what I saw in the first episode it was a brilliant show.
I'm dyslexic and only really learned to read or write when I was seven, so I can remember the learning processesthat I went through ie the woman who last week used bendy bits of plastic to 'feel' what words looked like (I used bits dried makaroni).
Also, it was interesting to see the flood gates open, in that once you know how words are constructed and how simple thay can be, it leads into a world of new ideas and experiences.
 
Beadle's heartfelt and scathing criticisms of the Skills for Life (SfL) Adult Literacy Core Curriculum and the official teaching resources are engrossing.

I don't agree with everything he has said. I'm not convinced by his comment that the literacy materials are really designed for people who are not native speakers of English. It was also not at all clear why he felt the literacy lesson he observed in Southwark - Was it Southwark? It somewhere in south London - was "incompetent". Harsh stuff! What had that poor teacher done so badly? We saw very little of the lesson, but it was obviously a much higher level course that the course Beadle had to prepare for his beginner and near-beginner readers.

However, I do agree with him that the official SfL materials are not good for beginner readers. Insofar as I understand it, when they were prepared, there was an assumption that someone who joins an Entry Level 1 class will not really be completely illiterate. However, as was shown in the programme, there most certainly are adults who are genuinely illiterate.

I gather from some notes that C4 has put out about the series that Beadle is going to go on to make further criticisms, including pointing out that the SfL project, as it works at the moment, is geared to getting qualifications for people who are already quite literate. This is very true and I'm delighted that this point is being made on TV.

It is not wrong to help people to brush up their punctuation and spelling and, after a bit of exam practice, gain a Level 1 or Level 2 National Test qualification in literacy. (L2 is supposedly equivalent to A-C grades at GCSE and L1 to lower grades at GCSE.) That's what I do and I often enjoy it. More importantly, getting the qualifications is very good for the morale of the students and may help some of them get jobs that would not have been open to them otherwise. They even learn a few things along the way.

The trouble is that the people who have the greatest need - like many on this evening's programme - tend not to get the help they need. The biggest reason for that, I think, is that they are the hardest to persuade to join courses.

The government and the education bureaucrats should stop congratulating themselves and each other and pretending that all the qualifications gained indicate great progress for previously illiterate or fairly illiterate people. Instead, they should admit that much of the SfL effort has involved certification (at L1 & L2) rather than education of those with the greatest need.

Superb post :)
 
Getting the calligrapher to visit and help Linda was inspired - a stroke of genius!

I agree. My son was very good at drawing and being able to construct 3-dimensional objects with Lego (without having been shown). Initially, at school, he didn't enjoy learning to write so I said that writing is just another form of drawing and that, as long as he follows the basic shape of each letter, he is free to 'style' the letter any way he likes. From thereon he really loved writing.

OT but I loved the woman's house, or what we got to see of it!

Something else that people never seem to factor in when they teach writing, or beat themselves up about their handwriting; the ease of writing is dependent on the pen and also its nib. Give me a Bic pen and my writing is very awkward and doesn't flow. LAMY foutainpens however; now we are talking!
 
Beadle's heartfelt and scathing criticisms of the Skills for Life (SfL) Adult Literacy Core Curriculum and the official teaching resources are engrossing.

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According to the South London Press, the teacher in Lewisham whose lesson he was filmed in is threatening to sue. Beadle apologised, and said his attacks on the materials were taken out of context, and made to look like an attack on the individual teacher.
 
yet again it the one who make the most noise gets the most attention.
Shut up Linda give the others ago.

Good moment
The other mother putting down daughter all the time. Then she read a page from a book her mother siade she never be able to read.

In your face :D
 
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