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Johnny Canuck2 said:
It's ok.

It's just that after Toronto, Vancouver would be the next likely target, and if the US bombs Iran, we'd become number one by a long shot.
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How do you figure that Vancouver would be the next target?
 
spring-peeper said:
That was published this morning.

I'm relating what I saw on the news this evening. His lawyer seemed to being giving the impression that these charges are real.



http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=837322006

I think that the entire this is really fascinating to watch. I enjoy reading different media reactions to the same events. For once, it's about a country I know something about.

I'll leave this thread to y'all and keep my findings/theories to myself.

oh, btw - Yea Canada - we rock!!!

:cool:
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No Canada - we folk!!!
 
spring-peeper said:
That was published this morning.

I'm relating what I saw on the news this evening. His lawyer seemed to being giving the impression that these charges are real.



http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=837322006

I think that the entire this is really fascinating to watch. I enjoy reading different media reactions to the same events. For once, it's about a country I know something about.

I'll leave this thread to y'all and keep my findings/theories to myself.

oh, btw - Yea Canada - we rock!!!

:cool:
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There's nothing in that article about this guy facing charges relating to wanting to behead the PM.
 
Main Street said:
How do you figure that Vancouver would be the next target?
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It's the second largest recipient of immigrants after toronto, and thus is more likely to contain radicals or those who might be swayed by radicals.

As for Iran, Vancouver has Canada's largest Iranian population; possibly the largest number of Iranians of any city outside Iran.
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
It's the second largest recipient of immigrants after toronto, and thus is more likely to contain radicals or those who might be swayed by radicals.

As for Iran, Vancouver has Canada's largest Iranian population; possibly the largest number of Iranians of any city outside Iran.
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really I thought that was LA

question if this thing goes over 2 years at what did they intercede and start escaleting their plan? sprinkle 2 tonnes of fertiliser another tonne there kneed and you have a terrorist cell ready to strike
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
It's the second largest recipient of immigrants after toronto, and thus is more likely to contain radicals or those who might be swayed by radicals.

As for Iran, Vancouver has Canada's largest Iranian population; possibly the largest number of Iranians of any city outside Iran.
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Aren't we all immigrants in Canada? First Nations excepted

And as for your Iranian comments - you sound like the fash
 
lostexpectation said:
really I thought that was LA

question if this thing goes over 2 years at what did they intercede and start escaleting their plan? sprinkle 2 tonnes of fertiliser another tonne there kneed and you a terrorist cell
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I checked, and you're right: LA has us beat by a long shot. However, Vancouver has a large farsi speaking population when judged by Canadian standards.
 
Main Street said:
Aren't we all immigrants in Canada? First Nations excepted

And as for your Iranian comments - you sound like the fash
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The 'fash'.

I thought you were canadian.

Terrorism is in part a crime of opportunity. I suspect that Whitehorse probably wouldn't be a likely target for Iranians angry about an attack on their home country for a number of reasons, not least of which is that few if any live there, and if any went up to blow up the local reservoir, they'd stick out like sore thumbs.
 
Main Street said:
Aren't we all immigrants in Canada? First Nations excepted

And as for your Iranian comments - you sound like the fash
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JC allegedly hates Iranians. He isn't too keen on the French either. I reckon he's really a redneck from Alabama.;)

As for him being fash...well, let's just say he's made a few remarks that could be considered fascistic in character... and he did defend Diesel and pbman.
 
spring-peeper said:
I have no intention of discussing Canadian domestic policy with you. I've often be told that I have no right to discuss England/France/etc because I don't live there and therefore I can't possibly understand. I think the same holds true here.
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You don't want to discuss politics on a world politics forum?
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
It's the second largest recipient of immigrants after toronto, and thus is more likely to contain radicals or those who might be swayed by radicals.

As for Iran, Vancouver has Canada's largest Iranian population; possibly the largest number of Iranians of any city outside Iran.
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I think, if percentage of immigrants being Muslim is any indicator, Montreal or Ottawa might be likelier targets - no shortage of symbolic targets in Ottawa either. I was wandering around downtown Ottawa when I had a few hours there between flights last year and was surprised that there didn't seem to be many obvious security measures in place around Sussex Drive and Rideau Street.
 
Yeah, it is not only young Muslim men who were born and raised in the west,

but young white men who then convert to Islam.


One of your security agents talked about the thousands of recruiting

websites and how these are surfed like job applicants.

However, monied adults pulling the strings. This

also applies to the radical teachers that have infiltrated Muslim life.

They do not represent Islam they represent only hate.


I wouldn't underestimate them.
 
Mab said:
Yeah, it is not only young Muslim men who were born and raised in the west,

but young white men who then convert to Islam.


One of your security agents talked about the thousands of recruiting

websites and how these are surfed like job applicants.

However, monied adults pulling the strings. This

also applies to the radical teachers that have infiltrated Muslim life.

They do not represent Islam they represent only hate.


I wouldn't underestimate them.
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Or others who convert to Islam. Chand, the one who said he wanted to behead the prime minister, is a convert from hinduism.
 
Wow I read that he was in the military but didn't know he was a Hindu who converted to Muslim. I cant' remember his new "Islamic name" but when you convert that is part of the process.

A lost lad.

Did you catch his long hair? I would expect the busy beard but not the hair
 
nino_savatte said:
JC allegedly hates Iranians. He isn't too keen on the French either. I reckon he's really a redneck from Alabama.;)

As for him being fash...well, let's just say he's made a few remarks that could be considered fascistic in character... and he did defend Diesel and pbman.
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"Allegedly" doesn't cut it I'm afraid. Kindly refrain from making such accusations unless there's something to back it up.
 
Main Street said:
"In Canada, we spend a lot of time, effort and money into "brainwashing" our citizens that violence is not the answer"

What? Are you kidding?

Turn on the tv mate for a scrap Oilers style, or take a look at Canada's involvement in Afghanistan - oh we are all such beautiful people, don't make me laugh.
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Where did I ever say that Canadians were non-violent, beautiful or any other such adjectives? I think we are a very violent people - just look at our two national sports.

eerrr - Afghanistan? :confused:
 
It would appear that I was right about the attack on Ottawa being a bit far fetched...

OTTAWA -- A plot to take MPs hostage on Parliament Hill was abandoned at an early stage because the alleged conspirators -- most of them from southern Ontario -- knew little about Ottawa, The Canadian Press has learned.

Canadians were shocked to hear a group of suspects arrested on terrorism-related charges had supposedly planned to storm Parliament, seize politicians and behead the prime minister.

An insider with knowledge of the investigation said the plan was dropped early in the alleged conspirators' discussions because they were too unfamiliar with the nation's capital.

Instead of mounting the challenge of breaching Hill security and raiding the House of Commons, the group is said to have turned its focus to attacking targets exclusively located in southern Ontario.

There has been speculation about a wide selection of possible targets, the actual number is believed to be only three.
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http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060607/terror_ottawa_060607/20060607?hub=TopStories

I wonder how many days will pass before retractions/corrections are printed.

Of course, no-one believed that the RCMP actually gave over three tons of fertilizer, did they?
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
They didn't. They replaced the fertilizer in the bags with some other white stuff.
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If that was directed at me, I've been aware of that since day one. This story has been turned into a media circus. Just watching it unfold and half-truths, etc get transferred from country to country - each adding a little bit.

Did you see the different characters of one of the gentlemen that were published in TO this morning? In one he looked like satan, ready to destroy, and the other was a much humbler jesus-looking figure with his eyes cast down. Oh please!!!

Did you check out the different versions of this man's military history???
 
spring-peeper said:
If that was directed at me, I've been aware of that since day one. This story has been turned into a media circus. Just watching it unfold and half-truths, etc get transferred from country to country - each adding a little bit.

Did you see the different characters of one of the gentlemen that were published in TO this morning? In one he looked like satan, ready to destroy, and the other was a much humbler jesus-looking figure with his eyes cast down. Oh please!!!

Did you check out the different versions of this man's military history???
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I think some media sources have been going off half cocked, but then, others check the story, and something closer to the truth comes out.

From what I gather, he was a reservist who got some gun training on the range, but mostly with light weapons.
 
It just occurred to me some people may have been upset by the terrorist threat.

I'm sorry if my comments have trivialized anyones feelings.
 
spring-peeper said:
It just occurred to me some people may have been upset by the terrorist threat.

I'm sorry if my comments have trivialized anyones feelings.
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I wouldn't worry about it too much. During my life I have narrowly missed 3 terrorist bombs - two irish, one neo-facist - all in London.

I just do the maths - how many million people are there in London versus how many get killed. The odds for survival are very good - better than the odds of worrying so much about bombs that you forget to look both ways while crossing the street and get hit by a bus.

I'm happy that in Canada you caught these people before they murdered anyone - you have been more fortunate than London in this respect with our 52 dead in 2006 or the 192 dead in Madrid in 2005 - and of course New York in 2001.
 
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