Can you recover data from a sony erricson K800i... cheating boyfriend... :(

[audiotech]

And if he really did come home with a whole bunch of love bites, then why do you need the evidence from the phone?

He said his mates did it?

I've witnessed this being done by "mates" to some other "mate". Not a pretty site.

I'm happy to report that divorce proceedings are on hold.

 

[pembrokestephen]

But we don't know enough about their relationship to tell her to end it. It might just be a hiccup in a long-term, loving relationship and she might be prepared to forgive him. Also he might have not been unfaithful.

By the same token, we don't know enough about their relationship to tell her to go ahead and gather all this evidence.

That's why I've been quite careful not to tell her to actually DO anything.

And my experience in life tells me that, having gathered all this evidence, even if it is technically feasible, is going to leave her really no further on: she's still going to have to decide what to do - herself - as far as the relationship goes.

My point is that, if she's so concerned about her boyfriend's behaviour as to want to recover deleted messages off his phone, then, in the words of Julius Caesar, ilia iacta est - the die is cast. This relationship doesn't look like it's running on trust any more, does it?

 

[Sweaty Betty]

By the same token, we don't know enough about their relationship to tell her to go ahead and gather all this evidence.

That's why I've been quite careful not to tell her to actually DO anything.

And my experience in life tells me that, having gathered all this evidence, even if it is technically feasible, is going to leave her really no further on: she's still going to have to decide what to do - herself - as far as the relationship goes.

My point is that, if she's so concerned about her boyfriend's behaviour as to want to recover deleted messages off his phone, then, in the words of Julius Caesar, ilia iacta est - the die is cast. This relationship doesn't look like it's running on trust any more, does it?

It doesnt mean its not salvageable either...

 

[pembrokestephen]

It doesnt mean its not salvageable either...

No, it doesn't, but trying to scrape deleted texts off a phone is hardly a step towards salvaging it.

 

[Sweaty Betty]

No, it doesn't, but trying to scrape deleted texts off a phone is hardly a step towards salvaging it.

no i agree....so letting her speak her thoughts through with a bit of empathy, and a dash of reality is all that is needed not references to bunny boilers and clingy women are worse than cheating men......thats CRAP.

 

[pembrokestephen]

no i agree....so letting her speak her thoughts through with a bit of empathy, and a dash of reality is all that is needed not references to bunny boilers and clingy women are worse than cheating men......thats CRAP.

Yeah, references to bunny boilers and clingy women would be crap - and not exactly a great way of getting the OP to take any advice on board.

But I didn't see any references to clingy women, and the only comment mentioning bunny boilers was one saying "don't become one". Some of the advice has been, in true Urban75 style, pretty forthright, but I'd say this thread has had empathy coming off it in waves.

No, I don't think the OP's had too harsh a ride when I think how things so often go...

 

[mauvais]

As far as I am aware that phone uses proactive SIM (Subscriber Information Module).
Proactive SIM gives a mechanism whereby the SIM can initiate actions to be taken by the ME (Mobile Equipment). These actions include:
- display text from the SIM to the ME;
- send a short message;
- set up a voice call to a number held by the SIM;
- set up a data call to a number and bearer capabilities held by the SIM;
- send a SS (Suplementary Service) control or USSD (Unstructured Supplementary Service Data) string;
- play tone in earpiece;
- initiate a dialogue with the user;
- SIM initialization request and notification of changes to EF(s);
- provide local information from the ME to the SIM.

Therefore, the SIM will have this data (or at least, a quantative history of it, available.)

<boring geekazoid>

Most of that stuff is used for SIM Application Toolkit stuff. Incoming messages won't end up on the SIM at all because they go direct to phone memory. What stuff like "display text from the SIM to the ME" means is that technically you can save SMS to the SIM, and read it back. In practice the capacity is only a small number of messages and typically noone does this any more.

You would have to hack what's presumably flash memory in the phone and as someone rightly points out only SonyEricsson, or maybe dedicated forensics teams, could do it.

</boring geekazoid>

By the way, SonyEricsson phones delete SMS records and possibly other stuff if you change SIM - i.e. if someone borrows your phone, it'll delete all your messages for security reasons (I bet it's for software reasons )

 

[Sweaty Betty]

Yeah, references to bunny boilers and clingy women would be crap - and not exactly a great way of getting the OP to take any advice on board.

But I didn't see any references to clingy women, and the only comment mentioning bunny boilers was one saying "don't become one". Some of the advice has been, in true Urban75 style, pretty forthright, but I'd say this thread has had empathy coming off it in waves.

No, I don't think the OP's had too harsh a ride when I think how things so often go...

No yet again agree, just more a comment on how these type of GF admitts to jeal;ousy and insecurity therads and the words clingy and bunny boiler always appear....its a trend i have noticed....

 

[cybershot]

No yet again agree, just more a comment on how these type of GF admitts to jeal;ousy and insecurity therads and the words clingy and bunny boiler always appear....its a trend i have noticed....

If your going to post about your relationship on a public message board, then you should expect to get replies your not going to like.

If the OP or someone else is going to take it personally, then don't post the underlying reasoning for doing so in the first place. Just asking how to get the information she wanted would have been good enough. For all anyone would have known then, it could have been her own phone that had fucked up.

 

[pembrokestephen]

If your going to post about your relationship on a public message board, then you should expect to get replies your not going to like.

If the OP or someone else is going to take it personally, then don't post the underlying reasoning for doing so in the first place. Just asking how to get the information she wanted would have been good enough. For all anyone would have known then, it could have been her own phone that had fucked up.

Good point This could have been kept as a purely technical query, but I suspect the OP had her own reasons for wanting to give a bit more of the story. In the circumstances, as you say, it's inevitable that the advice she got as a result will not be purely technical, and I don't see anything wrong with that. When I read haylz's comments (which I agree with, in principle, if not in regard to this particular thread), I went back and looked at what people had said, and my take on it is that, by Urban's often robust standards, the responses were generally pretty supportive.

Haylz's point does have validity as far as other threads I've seen go, where posters have received very prescriptive and occasionally quite judgmental advice.

I hope the OP hasn't felt invalidated or insulted by the responses she's had, and I hope that she finds her own way of resolving this situation, whichever way she does it - with or without the advice she got. And perhaps, if she does feel she's been given a hard time, she'll feel reassured at least by the fact that someone has expressed sympathy for her in that.

 

[Sweaty Betty]

Good point This could have been kept as a purely technical query, but I suspect the OP had her own reasons for wanting to give a bit more of the story. In the circumstances, as you say, it's inevitable that the advice she got as a result will not be purely technical, and I don't see anything wrong with that. When I read haylz's comments (which I agree with, in principle, if not in regard to this particular thread), I went back and looked at what people had said, and my take on it is that, by Urban's often robust standards, the responses were generally pretty supportive.

Haylz's point does have validity as far as other threads I've seen go, where posters have received very prescriptive and occasionally quite judgmental advice.

I hope the OP hasn't felt invalidated or insulted by the responses she's had, and I hope that she finds her own way of resolving this situation, whichever way she does it - with or without the advice she got. And perhaps, if she does feel she's been given a hard time, she'll feel reassured at least by the fact that someone has expressed sympathy for her in that.

yet again i agree with all that ...

 

[Gromit]

I heard on the radio that there were programs that will recover erased data providing it hasn't been over written. Don't know how to do it myself mind.

Invasion of privacy isn't nice though.

 

[muckypup]

Haylz you've made a fair point. we're not privy to the full story and hence its unfair to give prescriptive advice. I withdraw what I suggested earlier.

I still think OP sounds like a bunny boiler tho

 

[Sweaty Betty]

Haylz you've made a fair point. we're not privy to the full story and hence its unfair to give prescriptive advice. I withdraw what I suggested earlier.

I still think OP sounds like a bunny boiler tho

oi.....

 

[Corax]

Haylz you've made a fair point. we're not privy to the full story and hence its unfair to give prescriptive advice. I withdraw what I suggested earlier.

Balls to that, my snap judgements are infallible. Dump him. Or get some lime and a shovel.