goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
Yes, I think 'gullible' is a better word than open-minded.
Can you be too open minded?
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Johnny Canuck3
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i once became so open minded, i realised i was the entire universe
This is like the digital version of something they did in the Sixties.
subversplat
writer of wrongs
Being too open minded just means that you sit on the fence all the time weighing up all the different opinions from all the different sides. Sometimes you just have to have a bit of pig ignorance to get stuff done.
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
You'd think that in the 21st century, they'd come up with something new.
Meltingpot
Living in our pools we soon forget about the sea
This is like the digital version of something they did in the Sixties.
Cool. Moody Blues - good album too (I like "Voices In The Sky" in particular).
Meltingpot
Living in our pools we soon forget about the sea
But there again, you can have some judgment and still be openminded; all it means is that you don't assume zero probability for anything you don't think is likely.
I'd never have believed, for example, that Steve Davis could win the 1981 world snooker championship in fine style and then get whitewashed 10-1 in the first round of the next by a rank outsider, yet it happened.
The yardstick is this: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Can you, effectively, have no mind?
Wow Cosmic man, too much. Like who wants to be bored? Yeah that's cool with me. Get down with the weirdness thing man.
probably
probably
Having no mind is a state of awareness available to lots of people, so there's no 'effectively' about it. It just is something that happens.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I couldn't have hoped for a better reply.
Off you go now.
Off you go now.
Meltingpot
Living in our pools we soon forget about the sea
As I understand it though (and I admit I'm not enlightened yet), having "no mind" doesn't mean literally that; it means having a still mind without ceaseless chatter going on. It's like being able to look through deep water to see the bottom of the pool or sea etc.
max_freakout
Nothing matters
"I alone, am motionless"
it's strange to say a person can have no mind, it sounds like a manifest contradiction
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
I liked Ride My Seesaw. Probably others, too, but I don't recognize them by their titles.
Meltingpot
Living in our pools we soon forget about the sea
Care to explain?
alsoknownas
some bloke
Similar thing happened to me. There was a wrong answer printed in a maths text book. I pointed this out to the teacher who then proceeded to ridicule me in front of the class (he couldn't contemplate that the book would be wrong).
Later in the week he confided that he had checked with a colleague and they had both concluded that I had been right all along (although he never admitted this to the rest of the class).
From then on he, and a few of the other teachers regarded me as some kind of 'genius', dispite the fact that I am only really average at maths, I just had a tiny bit more imagination that them.
Similar thing happened to me. There was a wrong answer printed in a maths text book. I pointed this out to the teacher who then proceeded to ridicule me in front of the class (he couldn't contemplate that the book would be wrong).
Later in the week he confided that he had checked with a colleague and they had both concluded that I had been right all along (although he never admitted this to the rest of the class).
From then on he, and a few of the other teachers regarded me as some kind of 'genius', dispite the fact that I am only really average at maths, I just had a tiny bit more imagination that them.
This tale could belong in the book i've yet to write called educational tales of woe. Typical, a teacher with fixed ideas about things!! The very people who should be open in life are often the most closed. The very people who need to develop good listening abilities are often the worst listeners.
And look at his reaction to you, ridicule!! How bad is that. For learning to take place one needs a supportive atmosphere, not one with such negativity in it.
And lastly, he didn't even have the balls to correct his behaviour in the place where he got it so badly wrong. That would have been a great great lesson for your classmates if he had apologised to you within the classroom.
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
Reminds me of another thread.
For some, teaching is a calling. For the rest, it's just a job.
danny la rouge
Ninja swords for all disabled people
This puts very succinctly what I was going to try to say.
Yeah, but it's a pretty stupid job to take if there's no degree of 'calling' seen in it. I mean the pay is shit, the stress can be overbearing...
Unless of course you covet destructive tendencies, and then you have the perfect opportunity to cause harm to others!
alsoknownas
some bloke
I get the feeling it is a job of last resort for some people.
(Obviously there are also some good, genuine, dedicated teachers out there.)
(Obviously there are also some good, genuine, dedicated teachers out there.)
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
Late entrant to the thread here, but I agree with lbj above. Another way to put it would be: People often confuse being open-minded with never making a judgement. I would say that open-mindedness means making the effort to consider all points of view and gather as much relevant knowledge as possible *before* making a judgement.
People who don't like to make judgements are mentally lazy imo. People who make judgements too quickly are prejudiced. And people who say they never make judgements are lying to themselves
Getting the balance right in terms of how much information etc to consider before making a judgement is difficult, which is why many people try to avoid the issue by claiming to be 'open-minded'. No, you're not open-minded, you're just soaking up any old rubbish like a sponge, or running away from the difficult issues that demand decisions.
Genuine open-mindedness is where you make the effort to inform yourself, empathise as far as you are able, and give genuine consideration to new ideas. You can't have too much of that.
People who don't like to make judgements are mentally lazy imo. People who make judgements too quickly are prejudiced. And people who say they never make judgements are lying to themselves
Getting the balance right in terms of how much information etc to consider before making a judgement is difficult, which is why many people try to avoid the issue by claiming to be 'open-minded'. No, you're not open-minded, you're just soaking up any old rubbish like a sponge, or running away from the difficult issues that demand decisions.
Genuine open-mindedness is where you make the effort to inform yourself, empathise as far as you are able, and give genuine consideration to new ideas. You can't have too much of that.
Meltingpot
Living in our pools we soon forget about the sea
A parable is fiction. The event I'm describing actually happened.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
And the "random bump of the year" award goes to.....
Meltingpot
Living in our pools we soon forget about the sea
It's not that random mate, I was answering a post which had been a reply to another one of mine. Still, "bump of the year" sounds OK to me
