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Can we talk about Carillion

Discussion in 'UK politics, current affairs and news' started by gawkrodger, Jan 13, 2018.

  1. SpackleFrog

    SpackleFrog Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts

    I wouldn't be so sure that it won't cost votes. Last year just a month before Labour recorded a huge increase in vote share and seats in the GE, in the Welsh Assembly elections they suffered a fairly significant swing against them and lost a seat, which I reckon had more to do with their record in Wales than the party nationally. And it doesn't help Corbyn's image if his response to Welsh Labour's continuing support for privatisation is to say that he's powerless to stop them, in fact in the long run that's a sure fire way for him to lose support.

    I agree Blair's attempts to impose candidates were obviously unrealistic and awful but lets be clear, Corbyn doing nothing about the shit show that is Welsh Labour is not a viable plan. The GE result last year gave him all the ammunition in the world to be bold in putting forward a clear vision of what Labour should be offering and he's point blank not doing it.

    Exactly - the NEC tried to be reasonable and polite over Haringey and was met with a tantrum from Labour council leaders. No point being reasonable with these snakes.
  2. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

    Former Carillion directors branded 'delusional' at MPs' Q&A

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  3. agricola

    agricola a genuine importer of owls

    Indeed, but it would be a big ask to bin them all off and it would almost certainly result in days / weeks of overwhelmingly negative media coverage that would be better spent on covering the disaster that is the Brexit negotiations. It might be better to let reality / economics wipe them all out.
  4. GarveyLives

    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

  5. GarveyLives

    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

    ... apologies for duplicating the " branded delusional" report.
  6. SpackleFrog

    SpackleFrog Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts

    We're at years of negative media coverage now as a result of not binning them off - and it will continue until they are driven out of the party.
  7. Chilli.s

    Chilli.s Well-Known Member

    So bosses prioritise dividend payments not pension liability. For years. How is this not fraud.
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  8. Teaboy

    Teaboy It definitely looks brighter over there..

    Because fraud is illegal and robbing pensions to pay dividends isn't. Makes you wonder who made the rules really.
  9. existentialist

    existentialist Spartacus? No, never heard of him.

    We know exactly who makes the rules.:mad:
  10. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

  11. 1927

    1927 Funnier than he thinks he is.

  12. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

    Weird, it's disappeared. :confused:
  13. A380

    A380 How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?

  14. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

    This was part (in fact the main bit before it got to stuff about employees) of the above linked article but has since been removed, the title has also changed


    • Carillion: accountants accused of 'feasting' on company | echoService
  15. 1927

    1927 Funnier than he thinks he is.

    Why have the Guardian taken it down I wonder? :hmm::hmm:
  16. GarveyLives

    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

  17. not-bono-ever

    not-bono-ever Literally over the moon

    I have worked in companies where the accountants/ FD's have walked out or refused to sign anything that is a smidgeon iffy or not transparent - Carillion seemed to have a huge turnover of FD's in a very short period
  18. GarveyLives

    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

    In modern business-speak, the Chairman sets "the tone from the top" ...

    Carillion chairman ‘no grip of reality’ before vast writedown


    "Boardroom minutes record Green, who had been on the board since 2011 and chairman since 2014, expressing his belief that “work continued toward a positive and upbeat announcement for Monday [10 July], focusing on the strength of the business as a compelling and attractive proposition” – five days before it announced the £845m profit warning that marked the beginning of the end."
  19. GarveyLives

    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

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    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

  21. GarveyLives

    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

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  22. pogofish

    pogofish Testicle Hairstyle

    And if I couldn't be more staggered by anything to do with Carrillion.

    It emerged recently that staff on their contract here had to pay a holding company set-up by Carrillion in order to get paid their wages.

    Pay-for-pay - Whatever the fuck next..! :mad:

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