Which planet are you on? Road tax is now enforced more stringently than ever - based on computer records, with automatic fines if not renewed / no off-road notification made; vehicles clamped / seized / crushed ....dylanredefined said:
Can we have a cycling thread without some twat going on bout cyclists jumping lights
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tommers
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cobbles - you haven't answered any of my questions. why not?
road tax isn't actually really called road tax. it's called vehicle excise duty. it doesn't pay for roads. it's a tax on powered vehicles. the rates are based on either the type of vehicle or carbon dioxide emissions.
http://www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/taxation.htm
we've covered this before.
road tax isn't actually really called road tax. it's called vehicle excise duty. it doesn't pay for roads. it's a tax on powered vehicles. the rates are based on either the type of vehicle or carbon dioxide emissions.
http://www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/taxation.htm
we've covered this before.
Would these help, hon?Crispy said:
tommers said:
>who pays for the seven year old's regulation and taxation? or do you sue them when they cycle on the pavement?
The child's parents - reinforcing their responsibility to train their child.
>where do the license plates go?
Anywhere so long as they're clearly visible - just like a motorcycle.
>should we force pedestrians to get third party insurance? the last five times I have come off my bike have been because I hit / avoided a pedestrian who walked out from behind a bus / taxi / stationary car / off the pavement without looking.
You can always sue whether someone has insurance or not - if the pedestrian caused the accident then they should be held accountable.
>would you support redesigning of the traffic system in order to promote cycling and make that the primary form of transport around a city instead of the car?
I'd be happy to see the traffic system redesigned to keep bicycles out of the way of powered vehicular traffic flow. Cycling is one form of transport that should be promoted like private car usage.
>would you support part of the driving test being changed to include a cycling proficiency test? so that drivers can appreciate that cycling can sometimes feel quite exposed, especially when somebody is going thirty miles an hour about two inches away from you, or forces themselves past you in order to stop at the lights a hundred yards away.
The driving test already contains reasonable content on situational awareness - at least someone with a licence can show that they have achieved a standard - unlike an unregulated road user. Why not also include training in driving an HGV so that other road users can appreciate its blind spots - what's the point if only motorists are forced to be aware of other road user's problems?
>Would you support a change to the law so that the traffic lights system can be altered to enable cycles to proceed in front of the traffic, as setting off in between two rows of cars can sometimes be quite intimidating?
No - that just creates choke points - slow traffic that can't accelerate and therefore holds up traffic flow should be separated out of the powered stream.
>Do you get pissed off when pedestrians cross the road when the red man is showing? If it doesn't piss you off then why not?
Yes - if there was an easy way of doing so, I'd have them arrested for jaywalking - strictly enforced in some jurisdictions like Singapore.
>Do you ever do this? Do you ever cross the road when you are not at a designated crossing?
Yes (but as there's no specific law against it - unlike running a red traffic light) and realise that I'm taking a risk and am prepared to bear the responsibility for it.
I don't think that I've ever run a red light as I drive within the capacity of my vehile to stop - I've even been rear ended by a pillock who thought that I should have carried on through a red light - he was prosecuted for driving without due care and attention.
Orang Utan said:
You've met me you cunt - how can you say that?
You blacken my name just because I don;t back down on subjects I feel strongly about?
No - I am a very considerate cyclist, and motorist.
It's not my fault if i don;t doth my cap to cunts in bigger vehicles. I refuse to back down when I'm in the right.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
Cos you come across as one on here - my mate Jim is a wittty condiderate charming bloke, but I'd never get in a car with him cos he's a twat once he's behind the wheel.Major Tom said:You've met me you cunt - how can you say that?
Maybe I got you wrong, but I maintain that caution is best when riding.
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
Caution mixed with assertiveness. Be careful about what you choose to do, and don't do anything stupid. But when you do something, do it with purpose and don't dally around going erm, um, shal I turn or shall I not, um, oh I don't know, I won't, no hang on I will! Crunch.
Orang Utan said:
I exercise caution - that is probably why i'm not dead.
In 10 years of driving I've never come close to hitting anyone. In 30 odd years of cycling I've hit one person and that was 30 years ago while i was still at school.
One of my big bug-bears has always been that there's bugger all you can do when you've been picked on by someone with a grudge against cyclists. It doesn't matter if you are cautious in this situation - its not actually anything to do with me - and if i can anticipate a someone coming to get me i'll get out of the way. I used to face these wankers down. Now I'm middle aged, and have a family, I try to stay alive.
As for the attacks on me being my fault - i've seen hundreds of other cyclists attacked in the last 30 years - it's random abuse.
I'm sure most people think i'm talking bollox when i talk about these random attacks, but other cyclists i meet know and understand - at least the ones that have been cycling as much and for as long as i have - do.
Pie 1 said:And therein, as they say, lies the rub.
what
read the post above. Then tell me what i should do. i'm fed up with all the fucking judgemental shit that gets laid on cyclists.
I never get it when i say i drive a car.
should i just give up. it'd be sad cos it's the single most enjoyable thing i do every day.
Anyway - I'm beginning to get it. If you're a cyclist - just shut your mouth and fuck off - noone wants to know and if you continue to whinge we'll run you over in our car.
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
No, I think what Pie 1 is trying to say is, if you're on the road, in the right, and some fucker tries to come and cut you up, the safest thing to do is get out of their way, not stand tall on the moral high ground and get angry at the guy breaking the rules. It sucks, but sometimes you have to let the bully hit you, or he'll save it all up for after school and give you a real kicking with all his mates. That's a crap analogy
Sweaty Betty
Hemo rising!
Major Tom said:what
read the post above. Then tell me what i should do. i'm fed up with all the fucking judgemental shit that gets laid on cyclists.
I never get it when i say i drive a car.
should i just give up. it'd be sad cos it's the single most enjoyable thing i do every day.
Anyway - I'm beginning to get it. If you're a cyclist - just shut your mouth and fuck off - noone wants to know and if you continue to whinge we'll run you over in our car.
No and stop being the victim
you started this thread to whinge and bleat about yourself and poor me im a cyclist........so....
Whether your a pedestrian, motorist or cyclist you come under the same amount of danger and are subjected to the same amount of abuse period..
So all this i get it in the neck more than you shit is rather pointless..
As for random attacks on cyclists, thats poor form, just as it is for the various other random attacks endured by motorists and pedestrians going about their travels.
Crispy said:No, I think what Pie 1 is trying to say is, if you're on the road, in the right, and some fucker tries to come and cut you up, the safest thing to do is get out of their way, not stand tall on the moral high ground and get angry at the guy breaking the rules. It sucks, but sometimes you have to let the bully hit you, or he'll save it all up for after school and give you a real kicking with all his mates. That's a crap analogy
if someone cuts you up at speed its often already too late. I do anticipate it now, but is it fair that novice cyclists have to endure this abuse?
One time I got kicked in for trying to help a female cyclist whose bike was being ridden over by a black cab. Should I have turned away? I notice a lot of people do, but to be honest, that's not a world i want to live in.
Major Tom said:
Chilling out a bit about it all might be a start.
Seriously Tom. I think your making a meal out of this. You assume everyone's deliberatly out to get you - they aint - your not that important. I also doubt that you're always as right as you believe yourself to be.
(Just so you know, I cycle too.........and drive, and walk)
Sweaty Betty
Hemo rising!
Major Tom said:WHERE?
Not true
oh poor form is it? Fuck off
You are starting to sound a tad hysterical
Yes it is poor form to get abused for no reason, just like it was poor form to be put in hospital by a cyclist, to have my bag snatched from my car, to get verbally abused for crossing a zebra, for beig punched in face by motorist etc etc etc
Do you get what im talking about..
ITs not only you that gets grief, we all fucking do...
So get off the cross mate, theres a good lad
haylz said:You are starting to sound a tad hysterical
Yes it is poor form to get abused for no reason, just like it was poor form to be put in hospital by a cyclist, to have my bag snatched from my car, to get verbally abused for crossing a zebra, for beig punched in face by motorist etc etc etc
Do you get what im talking about..
ITs not only you that gets grief, we all fucking do...
So get off the cross mate, theres a good lad
It's not me who gets grief - its a lot of cyclists disproportionately. And if we don;t do something about it - we'll never get cycling levels up to European levels. With global warming and oil shortages round the corner, this is a problem.
Put your head in the sand and ignore the problem if you like, but it will not go away.
I find the idea that because I feel strongly about an issue i have always felt strongly about, one that i've been an active campaigner in for over 15 years, I should "chill out" and not get "hystreical" about it.
Do you actually know what an opinion is? Or are you too busy posting pictures of your arse over urban?
Sweaty Betty
Hemo rising!
Major Tom said:
Actually i do a picture pm service, you sound like you aint choked your chicken for yonks.....
Sweaty Betty
Hemo rising!
Major Tom said:
I meant fuck you sunshine tell someone who gives a shit.......
Pig ignorant cunt is it??????
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