Can we have a cycling thread without some twat going on bout cyclists jumping lights

[Major Tom]

Surely the beauty of being on a bike is that you're a pedestrian-car hibrid and thus have super powers to go on pavement/road as required.

as long as you know what you're doing, I really don't see a problem.

What's wrong with going on the pavement if there's no people about, or you ride slowly without pissing anyone off?

As for jumping the red light, I really don't see an issue as long as no one is endangered (including the cyclist doing the jumping)

that's not what we're discussing - i'm trying to make the point that these things are being brought up as spurious issues to deflect cyclists from making serious points.

tbh i was on a pavement today - a dangerous stretch of the A20 - and i've yet to see a single person on the pavement in about 8 years.

some lights are designed purely for controlling motorised traffic - and we need a change in the law to allow cyclists to pass through these lights. It's complete lack of cycling awareness among our politicians that means laws that apply to cars, lorries and buses, also apply to cyclists.

It is ridiculous

 

[bluestreak]

unlikely. the anti bikes people will show up soon enough

 

[Orang Utan]

I'm all for stopping at red unless the street is empty - it's crap to jump lights at rush hour

 

[kained&able]

Cyclyes have no place on a pavement. i will kick the next cyclist that cuts me up on a pavment especilly if they are doing it to get round a set of lights.

people on pavemeants, vehichles on the roads it ain't hard.


dave

 

[subversplat]

Cyclyes have no place on a pavement. i will kick the next cyclist that cuts me up on a pavment especilly if they are doing it to get round a set of lights.

people on pavemeants, vehichles on the roads it ain't hard.


dave

I so so so hope that the next cyclist that cuts you up is a five year old on her My First Bicycle with Barbie stickers all over it and stablisers

 

[Crispy]

I'd like to see an extra amber cycle light at junctions that means "cyclists proced if safe"

 

[longdog]

Cyclyes have no place on a pavement. i will kick the next cyclist that cuts me up on a pavment especilly if they are doing it to get round a set of lights...

Don't come to Hull then.

I ride on the pavement and jump lights just to piss people off

 

[Pie 1]

I'm fed up with the aggro

I'm afraid that having seen you other posts in the past, you do seem to somewhat invite it.

Also, you seem to have a hell of a lot of run in's with people whilst riding your bike...

 

[kained&able]

I so so so hope that the next cyclist that cuts you up is a five year old on her My First Bicycle with Barbie stickers all over it and stablisers

better then a 6ft 3 250lbs recently parollod physcho i guess. Least i know i'd get away with it!

and longy why the fuck would i or anyone else want to go to hull? i reckon your safe!


dave

 

[longdog]

and longy why the fuck would i or anyone else want to go to hull? i reckon your safe!

Go on. You know you want to pay a visit

 

[Cobbles]

The answer to "red light rage" is quite simple.

The thing that annoys me when I'm on 4 as opposed to 2 wheels is that if I jump a light (most of which are now protected by cameras), I'll get a fine and points whereas if a cyclist carries out the same pointless and stupidly dangerous manouvre, unless there's two plods actually standing in front of them, they're going to be virtually immune to prosecution.

That's unfair.

The solution is to change the law so that all users of the public highway have to be tested and licensed to ensure that they have at least a basic understanding of road safety and all vehicles have to carry a licence plate whether motor powered or not, as well as pay for (at least) 3rd party insurance. This means that whenever a cyclist carrie sout an illegal manouvre such as cycling on th epavement, they can be brought to justice and the injured party can sue away.

This can all be used to generate more employment at DVLA (a benefit) , as well as generating revenue to offset the loss that will flow from the current stupidly high levels of fuel duty driving some lower earning motorists off the road.

 

[Ich bin ein Mod]

It always amazes me that people can hold grudges against people just cos of how they get from a to b.

What about arsehole motorists - a class of people i encounter every day - as a ped, as a motorist, and as a cyclist?

Why do we always have these playground arguements about cyclists and motorists? People will be arseholes, no matter what mode of transport they use. And yes, that does include pedestrians.

 

[tommers]

The answer to "red light rage" is quite simple.

The thing that annoys me when I'm on 4 as opposed to 2 wheels is that if I jump a light (most of which are now protected by cameras), I'll get a fine and points whereas if a cyclist carries out the same pointless and stupidly dangerous manouvre, unless there's two plods actually standing in front of them, they're going to be virtually immune to prosecution.

That's unfair.

The solution is to change the law so that all users of the public highway have to be tested and licensed to ensure that they have at least a basic understanding of road safety and all vehicles have to carry a licence plate whether motor powered or not, as well as pay for (at least) 3rd party insurance. This means that whenever a cyclist carrie sout an illegal manouvre such as cycling on th epavement, they can be brought to justice and the injured party can sue away.

This can all be used to generate more employment at DVLA (a benefit) , as well as generating revenue to offset the loss that will flow from the current stupidly high levels of fuel duty driving some lower earning motorists off the road.

 

[Cobbles]

Not so - Mr Clarkson would have suggested the use of automated chain gun turrets as opposed to regulation and taxation.

 

[mauvais]

I am here to fulfill this challenge. I have just bought a new bicycle and I am going to show you it without talking about *** ****** at all

It is a shiny new 2006 GT Avalanche 1.0 which I bought in a sale at Evans for three hundred and seventy English pounds.

On the first time I rode it after bringing it back yesterday I got completely lost and rode right off the edge of the map. I did 26 miles, mostly by accident, and now it hurts like fuck - like I've been buggered with a marrow, to be more descriptive. I suppose it's largely because that's 26 miles more than my sum total for the past three years. I still wondered if I should invest in a better saddle or something

Anyway good good good. Even the little kids think I'm cool!

 

[tommers]

Not so - Mr Clarkson would have suggested the use of automated chain gun turrets as opposed to regulation and taxation.

who pays for the seven year old's regulation and taxation? or do you sue them when they cycle on the pavement?

where do the license plates go?

should we force pedestrians to get third party insurance? the last five times I have come off my bike have been because I hit / avoided a pedestrian who walked out from behind a bus / taxi / stationary car / off the pavement without looking.

if not, is that because pedestrians cause less death and injury than cycles, so the need for insurance is less? if that isn't the reason then what is?

would you support redesigning of the traffic system in order to promote cycling and make that the primary form of transport around a city instead of the car?

would you support part of the driving test being changed to include a cycling proficiency test? so that drivers can appreciate that cycling can sometimes feel quite exposed, especially when somebody is going thirty miles an hour about two inches away from you, or forces themselves past you in order to stop at the lights a hundred yards away.

Would you support a change to the law so that the traffic lights system can be altered to enable cycles to proceed in front of the traffic, as setting off in between two rows of cars can sometimes be quite intimidating?

Do you get pissed off when pedestrians cross the road when the red man is showing? If it doesn't piss you off then why not? Do you ever do this? Do you ever cross the road when you are not at a designated crossing?

 

[tommers]

I am here to fulfill this challenge. I have just bought a new bicycle and I am going to show you it without talking about *** ****** at all

It is a shiny new 2006 GT Avalanche 1.0 which I bought in a sale at Evans for three hundred and seventy English pounds.

On the first time I rode it after bringing it back yesterday I got completely lost and rode right off the edge of the map. I did 26 miles, mostly by accident, and now it hurts like fuck - like I've been buggered with a marrow, to be more descriptive. I suppose it's largely because that's 26 miles more than my sum total for the past three years. I still wondered if I should invest in a better saddle or something

Anyway good good good. Even the little kids think I'm cool!

nice bike. your arse will get used to it.

 

[subversplat]

This can all be used to generate more employment at DVLA (a benefit) , as well as generating revenue to offset the loss that will flow from the current stupidly high levels of fuel duty driving some lower earning motorists off the road.

What the fucking fuck? You want to make cycling 1000x more expensive and inacessible in order to allow dolies to drive more cars. Errr Okay...

Thankfully your idea of a national cycle register is so stupid, unworkable and unpolicable that it'd never happen

 

[pogofish]

Surely the beauty of being on a bike is that you're a pedestrian-car hibrid and thus have super powers to go on pavement/road as required.

as long as you know what you're doing, I really don't see a problem.

As for jumping the red light, I really don't see an issue as long as no one is endangered (including the cyclist doing the jumping)

No, you are not a pedestrian (except in Scotland), so have to abide by the rules of the road like any other vehicle user.

Many fuckwit car users use exactly the same reasoning to justify their idiotic behaviour.

Once again, these threads would probably go a lot better if some cyclists were a bit less selfish & showed some sort of respect for & indeed recognition of the restrictions that apply to them as well & the basic responsability/duty of care required of them!

 

[Sunray]

The answer to "red light rage" is quite simple.

The thing that annoys me when I'm on 4 as opposed to 2 wheels is that if I jump a light (most of which are now protected by cameras), I'll get a fine and points whereas if a cyclist carries out the same pointless and stupidly dangerous manouvre, unless there's two plods actually standing in front of them, they're going to be virtually immune to prosecution.

That's unfair.

The solution is to change the law so that all users of the public highway have to be tested and licensed to ensure that they have at least a basic understanding of road safety and all vehicles have to carry a licence plate whether motor powered or not, as well as pay for (at least) 3rd party insurance. This means that whenever a cyclist carrie sout an illegal manouvre such as cycling on th epavement, they can be brought to justice and the injured party can sue away.

This can all be used to generate more employment at DVLA (a benefit) , as well as generating revenue to offset the loss that will flow from the current stupidly high levels of fuel duty driving some lower earning motorists off the road.

You get a fine because driving through a light with a car can and does cause death and injury.

Do you honestly think that when I go through red lights, which I do regularly, that I am going to put myself and anyone else in any danger. If a car hits me, then I will generally be in hospital/dead and the inconvienced car driver will have to take their car to get my blood washed off.

Its fucking dangerous riding a bike (esp in London) as it is without making it worse. Just started going from Hackney to Archway for work and thats well harsh in the morning. Its so harsh that if I feel even slightly less than 100%, I get the bus.

I favour the drivers fault system they have in europe for insurance. In a motor vehicle if you hit a cyclist then its your fault. That will make drivers much more aware of cyclists.

 

[likesfish]

I find when out hunting pedistrians a cross bow usually quite handy to slow them down and then I butcher them with a katana
anyone for long pig
thats why in brighton they can never find the bodies of the hundreds of people killed every year by cyclists (well according to the local paper loads of people are killed by cyclist every year)
tatse just like chicken

 

[Sweaty Betty]

tatse just like chicken

chicken?????


More like dog

 

[likesfish]

longs as you've got enough chilli's anyone ediable
although catching them as they leave waitrose and before they reach there 4x4 is quite challenging

 

[Sweaty Betty]

longs as you've got enough chilli's anyone ediable
although catching them as they leave waitrose and before they reach there 4x4 is quite challenging

I thought you were a fellow pedestrian, not a nutty cyclist

 

[Wolveryeti]

Pfft how many casualties have ever been caused by a bike jumping lights? You mardy car drivers are just playa haters.

 

[likesfish]

I'm the feared cannibal cyclist of brighton

 

[Crispy]

Jumping red lights is something I only ever do if it's for safety reasons. I see plenty of cyclists who do it for selfish impatiant reasons, and that ticks me off...

 

[Cobbles]

I am here to fulfill this challenge. I have just bought a new bicycle and I am going to show you it without talking about *** ****** at all

It is a shiny new 2006 GT Avalanche 1.0 which I bought in a sale at Evans for three hundred and seventy English pounds.

On the first time I rode it after bringing it back yesterday I got completely lost and rode right off the edge of the map. I did 26 miles, mostly by accident, and now it hurts like fuck - like I've been buggered with a marrow, to be more descriptive. I suppose it's largely because that's 26 miles more than my sum total for the past three years. I still wondered if I should invest in a better saddle or something

Anyway good good good. Even the little kids think I'm cool!

How many of earth's precious resources were squandered to produce this?

You should use public transport which is made from non carboniferous materials which don't need to be welded together by semi slave waged labourers in the 3rd world (hopefully).

 

[Wolveryeti]

How many of earth's precious resources were squandered to produce this?

You should use public transport which is made from non carboniferous materials which don't need to be welded together by semi slave waged labourers in the 3rd world (hopefully).

Blasphemer! Public transport contributes to the raping of the Mother Earth. No, the answer is to make your own bicycle out of compressed, hardened bio-faeces, as I do.

 

[Cobbles]

Jumping red lights is something I only ever do if it's for safety reasons.

Er... like not getting charged down by a herd of escaped rhinos?