Can it be possible for Iraq to run out of humans?

[nonamenopackdrill]

this is most distressing. I feel raped.

Stop derailing my thread!

right, from now on, no-one is allowed to make a post here unless it includes the words:

depopulation / depopulated
no more humans
empty
vacant
bales of hay
ghost town
everyone is dead.

You're desperate to be a mod, aren't you?

 

[Pete the Greek]

You're desperate to be a mod, aren't you?

I have as much chance of being a mod as you, nonameprick.

To be a mod, you have to have a proven track record for QUALITY POSTS

Well that's us two out the equation straight away, huh cunt-child?

 

[nonamenopackdrill]

I have as much chance of being a mod as you, nonameprick.

To be a mod, you have to have a proven track record for QUALITY POSTS

Well that's us two out the equation straight away, huh cunt-child?

I have no wish to be. Unlike yourself.
Now stop trying to behave like one.

 

[Pete the Greek]

I have no wish to be. Unlike yourself.
Now stop trying to behave like one.

Get off of my thread you cock.

Make your own thread up and leave mine alone. Thread Felon.

 

[nonamenopackdrill]

Get off of my thread you cock.

Make your own thread up and leave mine alone. Thread Felon.

1. I just told you, you're not a mod
2. Hypocrite
3. Did you make that one up? Yourself? Just then?

 

[Pete the Greek]

1. I just told you, you're not a mod
2. Hypocrite
3. Did you make that one up? Yourself? Just then?

Why don't you spend some time with your greek family this afternoon instead of wasting your time insulting random people on Urban? Have you nothing better to do?

You waster.

 

[nonamenopackdrill]

Why don't you spend some time with your greek family this afternoon instead of wasting your time insulting random people on Urban? Have you nothing better to do?

You waster.

Ditto back to you.

At the moment I'm procrastinating from work. Writing a few memos, pushing paper, email conversation with the head regarding BSF, Assessment for Learning and YST/ redesignation stuff (though you don't believe this). I've posted a few posts inbetween this.

In a few minutes I'll be driving to a mate of my wife's birthday, then returning to do some more work. I'm a bit snowed under at the moment.

Now what's your excuse...? Oh, you were wondering 'is it possible for Iraq to run out of humans?' - sounds like a 6 year olds question to me!

 

[ViolentPanda]

Your joking right? We're at the point where the perpetrators of the war are likely to be thrown out in anger at the next election, the vast majority of the world is against it and fundys are blown themselves up in revenge for it.
No way this makes the invaders look more noble than if they had a calm country with a democracy elected (if puppet) government and they then moved in there oil companies to 'help' the Iraqis drill.

Of course.

You're absolutely right and I'm absolutely wrong.

That's why it's taken, what, four years for a majority of US citizens to conclude that their government is doing a "bad thing".

 

[Aldebaran]

right, from now on, no-one is allowed to make a post here unless it includes the words:

Let me help you

depopulation / depopulated

are the sunni and shia neighbourhoods (especially in, but not limited to Baghdad) of each other's presence

no more humans

not exactlyu, but incresingly less of humans with a higher education, or with capital or other interesting abilities/qualities to make them play a role in the furutre Iraqi society

empty

schools and universities

vacant

to be "restructured" by the occupying powers

bales of hay

There must be some in stables.

ghost town

more likely town filled with the ghost of the murdered people (if you believe in such romantic stories)

everyone is dead.

is the situations of hundreds of thousands of Iraq's citizens.

salaam.

 

[thefishdead]

Of course.

You're absolutely right and I'm absolutely wrong.

That's why it's taken, what, four years for a majority of US citizens to conclude that their government is doing a "bad thing".

Don't understand what your saying. If there was calm surely less US citizens would think their gov was doing a bad thing and this would be even better for the perpetrators.

 

[Pete the Greek]

Let me help you


are the sunni and shia neighbourhoods (especially in, but not limited to Baghdad) of each other's presence

not exactlyu, but incresingly less of humans with a higher education, or with capital or other interesting abilities/qualities to make them play a role in the furutre Iraqi society


schools and universities



to be "restructured" by the occupying powers



There must be some in stables.


more likely town filled with the ghost of the murdered people (if you believe in such romantic stories)


is the situations of hundreds of thousands of Iraq's citizens.

salaam.

Aldeberan, you are a legend and the saviour of my thread. I salute you!

Noname? You are a nob. If the question is a 6 year olds, why not....IGNORE THE THREAD? Pillock.

 

[nonamenopackdrill]

Aldeberan, you are a legend and the saviour of my thread. I salute you!

Noname? You are a nob. If the question is a 6 year olds, why not....IGNORE THE THREAD? Pillock.

He saved it, and you decided to turn it back into a row.

Not clever.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Don't understand what your saying. If there was calm surely less US citizens would think their gov was doing a bad thing and this would be even better for the perpetrators.

If there were calm, then more US citizens would think their government was doing a bad thing, because the media, rather than relying on shallow everyday material on the kind of daily occurences I've previously listed, would arguably engage with the substantive issues around the US presence in Iraq far more heavily than they have.

You seem to entirely miss the point that home front propaganda is a very handy tool for keeping a population poorly or incorrectly informed.
Bear in mind how many Americans believed that Saddam had links to al Q purely on the say-so of the administration. Credible "newspapers of records" and other media sources took the administration at its' word and disseminated that propaganda nationwide.
As long as there's the factional violence in Iraq, the US has a convenient smokescreen and a justification for misrepresenting their presence there.

Anyway, I'm not going to derail the thread anymore, so feel free to believe what you will.

 

[thefishdead]

Pure Fantasy.If Iraq was calm and had its puppet government installed and going well with the oil pumping opposition to the war would slip away. For its supporters, troops coming home in body bags is a emotive reason to reject the war, cheap gas and a 'democratically elected' gov in place is not. The ideological arguments against invasion would slip to the back of the US consciousness quicker than you can say Grenada.
Yeah soz bout the derail.

 

[nino_savatte]

No, I made a thread about one topic, and the discussion has been hijacked by predictable bores (not yourself included) who have decided to use it as yet another anti-american rant.

It's not about the morals and motives for invasion FFS!!

see the OP and stick to it. It's my motherfucking thread after all.

Sheesh, some fucking people. Get a life.

You cannot talk about a drain on the Iraqi population without mentioning its cause: namely the impact of the US-led invasion and its aftermath on the people of Iraq.

You also asked this question:

I still don't know what's in it all for the US...

I replied "Oil".

No need to get territorial btw.

 

[nino_savatte]

What I want to know is do you or anyone out there believe the US is happy with the chaos in Iraq.

I've already told you. Perhaps you should try reading and comprehending before you leap in with both feet - non?

 

[teqniq]

I still don't know what's in it all for the US....apart from the original plan to depose Saddam, there's no material benefit is there? It's cost them a fortune, lives have been lost, credibility...where's the plus side for them?

Hmmmm it has indeed cost the government and therefore the taxpayer a fortune and the cost in human lives is self-evident. However I would surmise that the various military contractors such as Haliburton (who have close contacts with the current administration) and Lockheed-Martin, Rayethon etc etc who traditionally fulfil U.S. military contracts have made an absolute fortune out of this conflict.

 

[Dhimmi]

But surely if it carries on like this indefinitely, which is also weird because if there's no sign of hope, how come there isn't a mass exodus to leave?

Where would they go?

The easiest mass exodus would be overland, but Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iran and Turkey wouldn't let Iraqi refuges cross their borders, going to Syria would very likely see most of the men "drafted", armed and sent back and Jordan would most likely rather not get involved.

I know in Afghanistan there's moves to stop any refugee movement, I imagine it's true of Iraq too, so despite the lack of a welcome from most of Iraq's neighbours they've got to run the Allied gauntlet just to get to the border.

 

[guinnessdrinker]

this is most distressing. I feel raped.

this is urban, not the prison showers.

 

[Pete the Greek]

this is urban, not the prison showers.

damn. my fantasies scuppered again.

 

[guinnessdrinker]

damn. my fantasies scuppered again.

you should be posting in the shagging forum rather than trolling and ranting in here.

 

[Pete the Greek]

you should be posting in the shagging forum rather than trolling and ranting in here.

trolling and ranting? you weirdo. Hardly that is it? You'e the one who came up with the whole fucking prison rape thing. Odd ball. Go away.

 

[nonamenopackdrill]

trolling and ranting? you weirdo. Hardly that is it? You'e the one who came up with the whole fucking prison rape thing. Odd ball. Go away.

I suggest anyone does a search on this twat's posts.

70% are 'you're a twat' or 'you is a troll' sans grammar.

 

[Pete the Greek]

Noname, you are such a sad sack muppet, I am actually coming full circle and growing to enjoy and embrace your presence on the boards.

You make me smile!

 

[guinnessdrinker]

trolling and ranting? you weirdo. Hardly that is it? You'e the one who came up with the whole fucking prison rape thing. Odd ball. Go away.

you're the one who came up with the ludicrous allegation of urbanites raping you....

 

[nino_savatte]

damn. my fantasies scuppered again.

You should be so lucky.

 

[thefishdead]

I've already told you. Perhaps you should try reading and comprehending before you leap in with both feet - non?

I was typing my clarification as your answer when up. As is visible from the 2 minute gap between the posts. So perhaps you should follow your own advice instead of being a condescending prick - non?

 

[nino_savatte]

I was typing my clarification as your answer when up. As is visible from the 2 minute gap between the posts. So perhaps you should follow your own advice instead of being a condescending prick - non?

Fuck off. You never bothered to read and comprehend my post and your reply...well, let's just say it's non-existent.

I'll stop being a "condescending prick" if you stop being a thick cunt.

I replied to your post, tough shit if you don't like the answer.

 

[thefishdead]

Fuck off. You never bothered to read and comprehend my post and your reply...well, let's just say it's non-existent.

I'll stop being a "condescending prick" if you stop being a thick cunt.

I replied to your post, tough shit if you don't like the answer.

Or maybe you should have taught about your answer better the first time instead of double posting and thereby wasting my time explaining to you the question that was actually being asked.

 

[ska invita]

no more people left in Iraq?

Depopulation is a common strategy in war - more often known as genocide.
Iraqi total population was 26million last year I gather, so theres a long way to go yet.
IN the scale of megadeaths of the last century this war is still relatively small in deaths - I think you could probably put deaths related to US interference in Iraq over the last 20 years at around 2million, give or take.


Calculating megadeaths is a slightly contentious subject -
here is a site that compiles a number of lists:
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstats.htm

One of the most unknown genocide numbers is that of Native Americans - current population stands between 2 and 3 million - Native American population before the European invasion is disputed by scholars at anywhere between 12million and 140million
Interesting page with some numbers:
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat0.htm#America

- Certainly the invasion of the Americas in total ("Latin" America + North America) is one of, if not the most costly genocide of human history - however the deaths of Southern American Indians seems never to have a figure put on them.

Most deaths of South American natives were supposedly most often caused by disease - although the Spanish where perhaps the most sadistic torturers of all history: see books like "Shamanism, Colonialism, and the Wild Man" http://www.amazon.com/Shamanism-Colonialism-Wild-Man-Healing/dp/0226790134 -

One story in that book recounts how a systematic murder of a village involved tying up wives to trees, raping them with hot pokers, making the husband watch, before slitting his throat, and then slitting the wives throat

Here is a list of top 20 human attrocities by death toll:
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat0.htm#20worst

...never ending war