can an employer back out of a TUPE agreement on redundancy pay?

[temper_tantrum]

Oh I see, a 'bugger off and let's keep this just between the two of us' offer?
Bummer

Edit: You must be on pretty good T&Cs (or be a major pain in the arse!) for them to hold out that kind of money ...

 

[Orang Utan]

Oh I see, a 'bugger off and let's keep this just between the two of us' offer?
Bummer

Edit: You must be on pretty good T&Cs (or be a major pain in the arse!) for them to hold out that kind of money ...

we cost them too much - our new colleagues with the same job titles get paid 10K less than we do, so i think they might be anxious to get rid of us, BUT our skillset also makes us more desirable to keep on (most of us have 10-20 years experience in a specialist area), so it's hard to fathom what they have planned for us. i think they probably want us to spread our knowledge, let them soak it up and then fuck us over.

 

[temper_tantrum]

Are you in a public sector pension scheme? If so, then that could quite possibly be the driver. Pension fund deficits are driving up employer contributions and if you've got good schemes (eg. final salary or some other defined benefit scheme) then you're probably proving very expensive to retain.

 

[Orang Utan]

not public sector no, well not quite. tis a very cushy one though.

 

[temper_tantrum]

There you go then. Probably worth getting rid of you to avoid the employer pension contributions. Might be worth checking what pensions your newer colleagues are on - quite possibly not as good as yours?

 

[Orang Utan]

yeah, it's hard to ask, cos then they'll ask you. then they'll ask how much we get paid.
so, we're already started on division and concealment. not a great recipe for a harmonious workforce.

 

[temper_tantrum]

Very true.
I always tell people what I'm paid etc. I mean, I don't shove it in people's faces or whatever but if it comes up in conversation then I just state it clearly. It's the only way to undermine the divide and rule mentality.
Edit: Ok, not the only way. But it helps other people to be able to benchmark themselves.

 

[Orang Utan]

yes, i would tell if asked.
had a moment of solidarity with them today when i asked some people about getting hold of stationery - they just laughed and told me to wait til you were working at the weekend and then steal it off another department.

 

[Grandma Death]

90 day notice? Is that prescribed under law? Only, the company I work for has just gone through an extremely long and tortuous TUPE process with a company that can be viewed at best as duplicitous, and we were told the 90 day notice period wasn't a legal requirement.

Especially as they then told people we had a weekend to decide if we wanted their shitey terms or not. No-one to my knowledge is taking them.

I believe so...though I'm not entirely sure. Where I work 90 day notices have to be served on the estate management officers because they are getting rid of essential car user-something that was in place when were we TUPE'd over from the local authority.

 

[Orang Utan]

so, they want to reduce redundancy payments to statutory AND they want to get rid of discretionary sick pay now. CUNTS! i want to join the RM and go on strike now! Union is now officially in dispute with our employers

 

[sorearm]

so, they want to reduce redundancy payments to statutory AND they want to get rid of discretionary sick pay now. CUNTS! i want to join the RM and go on strike now! Union is now officially in dispute with our employers