ooh yes, that G1 looks right up my street!!
Gosh, this is well difficult! There's so much out there. ahhh!
Camera buying help: Digital compact or dSLR?
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ooh yes, that G1 looks right up my street!!
Gosh, this is well difficult! There's so much out there. ahhh!
Refused as fuck
"ethnic pakistani tosser"
What's your budget? The G1 might prove relatively expensive.
Around the 400 quids mark. Looks like the G1 just may be out of my price range, it's true. Will be buying online cos spain is definitely in the 3rd world when it comes to electricals and what have you: soooo expensive!
ethel
Well-Known Member
the d60 weighs about 500g (not including the lens). the G1 is about 400g, so there's not that much difference.
obvs you're not going to be able to sneak either one of them into gigs but i've rarely found that i wanted to do this anyway.
i frequently think i've lost my D60 as i forget that it doesn't weight that much!
definitely go into a shop and have a play around.
obvs you're not going to be able to sneak either one of them into gigs but i've rarely found that i wanted to do this anyway.
i frequently think i've lost my D60 as i forget that it doesn't weight that much!
definitely go into a shop and have a play around.
starfish2000
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I think someones on a retainer for Panasonic looking at this thread.
There is another consideration
If you do decide to move on with your photography a DSLR from the big 2 will hold its resale value far more than Lumix or other compact. It will be useful if you do decide to move on.
In febuary I was in your shoes I bought an end of line EOS 400 and just sold it for almost what I paid for it. Thus knocking quite a chunk of money off my new DSLR's price.
Anything from the big two will have a simpletons mode as well as landscape and portrait settings.
There is another consideration
If you do decide to move on with your photography a DSLR from the big 2 will hold its resale value far more than Lumix or other compact. It will be useful if you do decide to move on.
In febuary I was in your shoes I bought an end of line EOS 400 and just sold it for almost what I paid for it. Thus knocking quite a chunk of money off my new DSLR's price.
Anything from the big two will have a simpletons mode as well as landscape and portrait settings.
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hiraethified
I'd say you're always better off getting the camera you will use now, rather than buying something based on possible future resale values. I'm not entirely convinced by your argument either - with brand new dSLRs like the excellent Sony a200 going for just £270, you're unlikely to recoup much of your costs when you buy a dSLR.
I've got a Nikon D300 and a Lumix LX3 and I find that I use the LX3 a whole load more because of its size. If I've taken thousands of great photos with it, I'm not going to be that bothered about its resale price a year later to be honest.
Johnny Canuck3
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The final push for me considering a dSLR came about a month ago at a visit to the local zoo. Was sat ooohing and ahhing watching the amazing dolphin show, and was sat there trying to capture some action shots. However hard I tried, none of the pics came out well. Stupid slow shutter speed meant I missed all the good pics even if I tried to pre-empt anything exciting. And shit was blurry as fuck. I was sat next to a woman who was leisurely snapping away with her dSLR and I asked if I could view a couple of her pics and they all came out amazingly. I nearly threw my shitty point and shoot in the pool then and there, I felt so ashamed.
A few weeks later the stupid machine saved me the bother anyhow cos it conked out on me. God!
Your problem can also be solved with a good digital compact, then reading the manual.
My digital compact has a fastest shutter speed of 1/3200. There aren't many dolphins you can't freeze frame with that.
I think DSLRs are sexy looking, and there are features about them that I like. But then you're lugging a big DSLR everywhere. I'd like to get one for certain specified uses, but for just going about day to day, and being able to get a camera out and getting some image, I think the digital compact wins out in ease of use.
cybertect
It's grim up north (London)
Words of wisdom.
Buying a camera body on the basis of resale value has always been a poor game to play, digital cameras more so.
Good quality lenses, however, do tend to retain their value a lot better over time.
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
depends on the lighting don't it. SLR's will tend to use lenses with wider apertures and be better at higher ISO, meaning higher shutter speeds are useable in low lighting
Most of the pics you post seem to be blurry
This is quite true, Johnny. My digi cam before it conked out on me was getting increasing blurry with age.This is one of the big frustrations I had with it.
I think I need to set aside sometime to go out and have a feel of different cameras. I think I am swaying towards a lightweight dslr but will have to factor in realistically whether it's size and weight will prevent me for chucking it in my day bag and taking it around with me like i would a digital compact.
Paul Russell
Psychogeographer
Probably stating the bleeding obvious, but get it insured against theft straight away, knowing what Barcelona's like for petty crime and scams... (And I speak as someone who has never got round to getting camera insurance
)Probably stating the bleeding obvious, but get it insured against theft straight away, knowing what Barcelona's like for petty crime and scams... (And I speak as someone who has never got round to getting camera insurance
hmm, yeah maybe you're right.
Paul Russell
Psychogeographer
hmm, yeah maybe you're right.
I was just thinking if you're an English (?????????) person in Barcelona, a flash camera is going to make you look a bit like one of those gullible tourists.
nah: it's not like im gonna be walking round like a n00b snapping pics on the ramblas or at sagrada familia though is it?
it'll be ok. I wont let potential street robbers play too much a factor in what camera i opt for.Paul Russell
Psychogeographer
nah: it's not like im gonna be walking round like a n00b snapping pics on the ramblas or at sagrada familia though is it?
Actually, the only attention my camera ever got in Barcelona was a couple of posh twats taking the piss out of it because it wasn't a Leica. "Oh don't laugh Crispin, not every camera can be a Leica."
Refused as fuck
"ethnic pakistani tosser"
Crispin.
Actually, I did see a middle aged American man with a very sexy looking dSLR draped around his neck in the Raval (the only area outside of the touristy areas in the city where you're likely to experience any kind of hassles) at about midnight the other week, I tell ya, even I was tempted!
It's just not done. You just dont walk around the Raval like that.
It's just not done. You just dont walk around the Raval like that.
Paul Russell
Psychogeographer
Crispin.
I know it sounds like I made it up, but that quote is exact. Burnt into my memory!
Paul Russell
Psychogeographer
Actually, I did see a middle aged American man with a very sexy looking dSLR draped around his neck in the Raval (the only area outside of the touristy areas in the city where you're likely to experience any kind of hassles) at about midnight the other week, I tell ya, even I was tempted!
It's just not done. You just dont walk around the Raval like that.
Oh yeah. I know Barcelona pretty well -- not like you, obviously -- but I've spent maybe a couple of months there. Being blonde and pale (or more usually red) I never managed to look remotely Spanish, unfortunately.
starfish2000
Well-Known Member
But its less of a game if its an SLR from the big two and you'll still see some money back if its a couple of years old still. Thats the point. I do this for everything I buy and aside from normal consumer electronics where everything becomes worthless its a game that works.
I mean come on. I buy an end of line Camera for £270 and sell it on used for £235, whats not to like about that? Yet I'm hearing sharp intakes of breath from some forumites.....
Also theres no point comparing a big SLR like a D300 to something entry level like a D60 or EOS400/450 the entry level stuff is much much smaller.
I do this with my musical kit as well and trust me you feel less of an idiot spunking endless cash away. I mean I make profits on the guitars I've sold. Ive I loose money on kit its minimal because I take my time to buy and make as informed a choice as possible. Research, research, research. If you do your research you won't go wrong.
I wish I had the money of some of you lot by the sounds of it.
Refused as fuck
"ethnic pakistani tosser"
You're a right wheeler-dealer, we get it Harry Redknap. Now fuck off.
starfish2000
Well-Known Member
Also I find it a bit sexist a load of blokes are trying to talk a woman out of buying a more complex camera...thats positively Victorian
Johnny Canuck3
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Johnny Canuck3
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Some, otoh, aren't.
e.g. If you ask Horsie if he's blurry, he'll say: "Neigh!"
e.g. If you ask Horsie if he's blurry, he'll say: "Neigh!"
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hiraethified
The LX3 is every bit as complicated - or as simple to use - as an entry level dSLR.Also I find it a bit sexist a load of blokes are trying to talk a woman out of buying a more complex camera...thats positively Victorian
Refused as fuck
"ethnic pakistani tosser"
When you read a post in the photography forum, do you switch off your humour/irony detection device?
srs photography is srs.
srs photography is srs.
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
Some, otoh, aren't.
e.g. If you ask Horsie if he's blurry, he'll say: "Neigh!"
Do I need to point out to you that your blurry pics are in low light and your non-blurry ones in good light?
Also I find it a bit sexist a load of blokes are trying to talk a woman out of buying a more complex camera...thats positively Victorian
In this instance, it's probably a good thing: I'm not very techie at all I'm afraid so something user-friendly would be ideal.
Some, otoh, aren't.
e.g. If you ask Horsie if he's blurry, he'll say: "Neigh!"
Nice colours. If I tried to take a shot like that before my old cam borked and the horse made any kind of random movement, the whole shot would have been fucked.
Refused as fuck
"ethnic pakistani tosser"
Doesn't really sound like you want a DSLR to me either, Madusa. I could be wrong.
That's why I started this thread: TELL me what I want/need... camera wise, smart alec!
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