Camden Market - hideous development proposed

[Brainaddict]

I don't mind that building too much. Would rather that than a faux victorian warehouse that tried to match the other buildings.

It's not a choice between a faux victorian building and a tupperware box is it? Here's a modern wharfside building in Hackney clearly designed to refer to the history of the area but without copying the old warehouse styles - it might not be to everyone's taste but at least it gives a sense of being in a particular type of place, rather than floating around in the vast empty spaces of the architecture profession's hive mind...

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Ha ha ha ha ha.

I hate Camden, and this will only serve to increase the hate.

I love Camden, having lives nearby by for nearly two decades, the place really doesn't need this!

 

[Roadkill]

That looks bloody awful.

 

[kyser_soze]

It's not like Camden is a stranger to indifferent architecture - I mean look at eggcup house and the Grimshaw Sainsbury...

 

[lighterthief]

It's not a choice between a faux victorian building and a tupperware box is it? Here's a modern wharfside building in Hackney clearly designed to refer to the history of the area but without copying the old warehouse styles - it might not be to everyone's taste but at least it gives a sense of being in a particular type of place, rather than floating around in the vast empty spaces of the architecture profession's hive mind...

Walked past that building the other day and was impressed there's a really cool school academy type thing nearby as well.

 

[Crispy]

I think the Grimshaw sainsbury's is well suited to the area. Big heavy steel framing evokes the similarly heavy ironwork on the bridges and canal works.

 

[lighterthief]

Here it is - Bridge Academy

 

[kyser_soze]

I think it looks grubby and ill-used. But then most of Camden looks grubby.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Camden is gettting boring though - all the stall holders seem to be selling the same Chinese produced tat.

erm this is 1985 wanting it's opinion back...

Camden has been boring for a long long time longer than before Covent garden flea market or spittlefields went...

 

[Upchuck]

Please no!
http://londonist.com/2009/04/is_this_the_future_for_camden_marke.php

Good God

 

[phildwyer]

Camden's always been a bit shit

You youth know nothing. I remember Camden in the early 80s, the days of Compendium Books and honest drug-dealers, it was absolutely brilliant. And from what I've read it was even better in the 70s. Tis a crime what's become of it.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I think the Grimshaw sainsbury's is well suited to the area. Big heavy steel framing evokes the similarly heavy ironwork on the bridges and canal works.

I agree.

 

[kyser_soze]

You youth know nothing. I remember Camden in the early 80s, the days of Compendium Books and honest drug-dealers, it was absolutely brilliant. And from what I've read it was even better in the 70s. Tis a crime what's become of it.

It's basically been coasting on Punk nostalgia since the late 1970s.

Welcome back BTW...

 

[Boycey]

Please no!
http://londonist.com/2009/04/is_this_the_future_for_camden_marke.php

that is fucking horrid...

young girls that look exactly like Amy Crackhouse without the ravages of abuse, <snip>
lads with pipe cleaner legs and asymmetric hairstyles

like two crested stick insects fighting, only lamer.

but do they deserve it???

still go down there for music and video exchange and what is now called vinyl knowhow.

 

[maomao]

You youth know nothing. I remember Camden in the early 80s, the days of Compendium Books and honest drug-dealers, it was absolutely brilliant. And from what I've read it was even better in the 70s. Tis a crime what's become of it.

I remember Compendium and never needed to buy drugs on the streets. There were always cool shops there and a couple of good venues but I never liked hanging out there for the sake of it.

 

[Azrael]

Bridge Academy and the warfside in Hackney are both impressive buildings, but if a reproduction of a Victorian warehouse is practical and in keeping with the area, why not put up one of those in Camden?

 

[golightly]

The lock market has been fucked over and the stables market is being fucked over as we speak. If one were conspiratorially minded one might wonder about the fire that gutted the canal market.

 

[_float_]

...the young girls that look exactly like Amy Crackhouse without the ravages of abuse...

 

[Cowley]

Oh dear.

 

[WW3 Memorabilia]

I've met one of the developers for all those awful glass boxes they're putting in in place of the old stalls and open archways in Camden. She was a soulless witch who absolutely did not give a monkey's about stripping out any life still left in the place.

 

[Jon-of-arc]

I've met one of the developers for all those awful glass boxes they're putting in in place of the old stalls and open archways in Camden. She was a soulless witch who absolutely did not give a monkey's about stripping out any life still left in the place.

good name.

 

[WW3 Memorabilia]

good name.

Fanx! I typed it all by myself.

 

[toblerone3]

I think Camden market area kind of lost its way when Compendium closed. It has slowly gone more and more airhead and rudderless.

 

[JWH]

So Camden's crap and stalls are rubbish, which means the siteowner should build spaces for stalls so...there can be more crap?

 

[hipipol]

Camden has been increasingly sucky for some time, although this is the cherry on the shit pie.

Parkway's now got a whopping Gap, with chains replacing some of the old local haunts and that proposed new development has an equally tasteless skater superstore opposite. It's a shame, but the cat's long been out of the bag - it's just another shell for an ever more predictable selection of near-goth tat for posh kids from around London and beyond, surrounded by the usual brand names and restaurant options.

I lived in Camden for around 5 years, leaving in 87, it was very different and it was the rise and fucking rise of the market till it swamped and smothered the place like The Blob in shit 50s Sci-Fi movie that made me fuck off. As for all the Goth bollocks, that came well post Punk - though the music machine was ace, saw the Ruts there 3 times for fucking free - AND James Brown - his band was on tour doing Blues, cos the funk had died in 1980, he came on the stage, there was only me and one other nutter flipping out with joy at hearing Good Foot out of nowhere

Anyway, twas once fun, now its just fucking commmerce, even the street dealing so the locals deserve a bit of shite like that - tawdry and stupid, it matches the entire area

PS Tman, very precise, very correct!!

 

[salem]

Please no!
http://londonist.com/2009/04/is_this_the_future_for_camden_marke.php

That is appalling, another glass monstrosity. With all the extra space being built in the stables (which is a huge development) I can't believe there really is enough tat to sell.

Perhaps an oversupply of space will allow more interesting stalls back? That's probably a bit optimistic though.

Building aside, that rendering is really poor too. The perspective around the bridge looks wrong and the cyclist is going the wrong way down the street. Along with the notes on the website about it not featuring on the architects website I wonder if it's just a fake mock-up? Perhaps they are weighing in with something really bad so they have space to 'tone down' to what they are actually expecting to build.

Fair play for them managing to incorporate at least one big cannabis leaf and Bob Marley into the rendering though

 

[Final]

Will it have a pet shop?

 

[Prince Rhyus]

If you don't like it, tell http://www.camden.gov.uk/planning

If you REALLY don't like it, tell www.gos.gov.uk/gol/Planning/Planningcasework to call in the case

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

the landlords treat the traders terribly from what I've heard off a couple of mates that had stalls there, raising rents and not giving them viable plots when they renovate, so I doubt many of the original ones will be there when this opens. The fact it when up in flames is pretty sus to, and its really ugly

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

It's not a choice between a faux victorian building and a tupperware box is it? Here's a modern wharfside building in Hackney clearly designed to refer to the history of the area but without copying the old warehouse styles - it might not be to everyone's taste but at least it gives a sense of being in a particular type of place, rather than floating around in the vast empty spaces of the architecture profession's hive mind...

That is fucking cool