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Calzaghe V Kessler

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Well done Joe.

I am always humbled when I see fights like that. I'm not brave enough to do what Joe did and I have no problem saying so. The years and years of brutal training, starvation and self-denial.

Then to take 4 or 5 juddering shots on the night, shake them off and go on to win. Amazing. Delighted for him.

Big respect for Kessler too, genuine guy.
 
Mr Retro said:
If you have a Sky box ring up and get Setanta. It will cost you a tenner and you'll get Setanta for a month. No annual contract so you can just take the months worth.

Is that true? Could i order setanta for £10 and get it for a month?
 
Bet he still wont win BBC sports personality of the year, Hamilton will prob win for not winning F1:rolleyes:
 
Gingerman said:
Bet he still wont win BBC sports personality of the year, Hamilton will prob win for not winning F1:rolleyes:

oh...that pompous twat that's had millions pumped through his PR?

39 and 0!!!
calzaghe is awesome!
 
Gingerman said:
Bet he still wont win BBC sports personality of the year, Hamilton will prob win for not winning F1:rolleyes:

Surley Jonny Wilkinson playing 5 games in the World Cup and winning nothing is a greater achievement than becoming undisputed world champion ? :(
 
So how can I watch a replay of this, haven't seen it yet!

I got SKY and freeview, there is Setanta on freeview but nothings happening when I go on the Setanta channel, just a black screen.

Don't want to pay for a subscription to Setanta for my sky cos I obnly wanna watch the fight and thats it, not even into sports apart from the boxing.

Perhaps there is a pay per view channel available to watch the replay? Anyone know what channel its on for PPV?
 
TrippyLondoner said:
Is that true? Could i order setanta for £10 and get it for a month?

yeah theres no contract, pay 10 then cancel, and you get it for a month, like porn sites :) lol

Or if you have Virgin XL package its free
 
Kessler was a hard fight, very hard.

Great fight. Almost nothing on the ropes, hardly any clinches either except just to stop and chat. Cracking punches now and then but no knock-downs testify to a couple of granite chins.

It was Joe's extra years of experience that won that, I think, having more to his game.

Surely a big name American now?
 
just saw the fight.

fuck that was close!!!

Karac said:
I reckon Joe would win that fairly convicingly as well

hope so.
a win against hopkins will prove to those thick americans that calzaghe is one of the best fighters ever.

(something the welsh have known for over 10 years).
 
I am more impressed by Calzaghe every time I see him fight. He definitely proved that he could outbox a rangey, tall opponent. His workrate was something else, and I didn't see him slapping at all.

I think Kessler done well, but fought the wrong fight. He could have made it look closer if he wasn't looking for power punches all the time. He also showed that Ca;zaghe has some flaws, like the way he always leans forward and makes himself vulnerable to the uppercut.

Brilliant fight. I would still like to see Calzaghe against Jones, but if the yanks think old Hopkins is better then I suppose that fight will happen instead.
 
I got the train from Bristol to Newport yesterday and it was packed because of all the people going to Cardiff to watch the fight. The fight was on at 1-2 in the morning. WTF do you do in Cardiff untill the trains start to run again? Were the pubs open late?
 
probably one of the best fights i've ever seen, calzaghe was still jabbing away at an amazing speed right until the 12th round. he's just got too many moves and combinations for most fighters to handle,, he's not the biggest hitter but technically he's unrivalled. drops his hands too often though
 
dtb said:
he's not the biggest hitter but technically he's unrivalled.

And it's difficult to increase your own punch output against a southpaw who will counterpunch you if you start punching back often. That was the problem Kessler had. Calzaghe was able to look busy, but even if Kessler had changed his tactics and tried to increase his workrate he would not have succeeded against a southpaw like Calzaghe.
 
Mikey77 said:
I am more impressed by Calzaghe every time I see him fight. He definitely proved that he could outbox a rangey, tall opponent. His workrate was something else, and I didn't see him slapping at all.

I think Kessler done well, but fought the wrong fight. He could have made it look closer if he wasn't looking for power punches all the time. He also showed that Ca;zaghe has some flaws, like the way he always leans forward and makes himself vulnerable to the uppercut.

Brilliant fight. I would still like to see Calzaghe against Jones, but if the yanks think old Hopkins is better then I suppose that fight will happen instead.
Wot he said. :)

Great fight again by Calzaghe. I don't see the point in him fighting Jones Jr or Hopkins tbh tho' unless it's just for names fighters, or anyone in the top 10 of the LH's for that matter. Jones is 38, Hopkins 42, in fact the only 'young' man in the LH's is Chad Dawson at 25, but who's he you ask.

I wonder if Pavlik could go up to 168 maybe?? Altho' a cpl of big names like those mentioned, or maybe even a few domestic fights (Froch or Woods) but dunno really. No point in him fighting anyone from here.

It's a shame it's not a few years ago with B-Hop, JJ, Winly even.. all in their prime.

Can't wait for Jean-Marc Mormeck v Haye & Cotto v Mosley this weekend and of course Hatton v Mayweather soon too.

woo hoo, etc..
 
Tony Numbers said:
It's a shame it's not a few years ago with B-Hop, JJ, Winly even.. all in their prime.

If his management and promoters had wanted it, Calzaghe could have fought them all. And while he wouldn't have been a certainty against a peak Hopkins or Jones, he'd have been at least an even money shot. But why the fuck did a guy with that much talent spend his peak years fighting stiffs?

The way Calzaghe was protected always irritated me. He was obviously a very talented fighter but it looked like we'd never know how good because he wouldn't take any really challenging fights. Then suddenly, when by all rational estimates he has to be past his best, he starts fighting the top guys in the world and boxing rings around them. It's actually *more* frustrating to know that a guy who spent a decade beating up the Carlos Christies and Tocker Pudwill's of this world actually did have the ability to mix it with absolutely anyone in his era.

Hatton was just as protected for years, maybe more protected. But at least he was let loose on the world in his mid twenties rather than his mid thirties! Calzaghe's now likely to retire a very rich man, the holder of a load of basically meaningless records, and the comfortable winner of a handful of fights against genuinely world class opposition. A sensible way to go about a career I suppose, but a deeply frustrating one when he could have been much more.
 
Tony Numbers said:
Can't wait for Jean-Marc Mormeck v Haye & Cotto v Mosley this weekend and of course Hatton v Mayweather soon too.

woo hoo, etc..

Do you know if Haye v Mormeck's on Sky anywhere? AFAIK Reid v Froch is on Sky Sports 1 on Friday night and Cotto v Mosley's on Setanta 1 on Saturday night/Sunday morning, but I haven't seen Haye v Mormeck being listed anywhere :mad:
 
mhwfc said:
Do you know if Haye v Mormeck's on Sky anywhere? AFAIK Reid v Froch is on Sky Sports 1 on Friday night and Cotto v Mosley's on Setanta 1 on Saturday night/Sunday morning, but I haven't seen Haye v Mormeck being listed anywhere :mad:

Its only being shown on Canal + at the moment, luckily I've found a localish bar with it on.....so its a shame but I'll just have to watch it whilst drinking a cold Kronenbourg :o
 
CharlieAddict said:
a win against hopkins will prove to those thick americans that calzaghe is one of the best fighters ever.

Apparently not.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7078050.stm

Hopkins responded: "I have no interest in going there. He has to bring his butt here to fight the living legend Bernard Hopkins."

I have no interest in boxing whatever, but I hope that Calzaghe knocks this sad self-aggrandising cunt out after 30 seconds.
 
mhwfc said:
Do you know if Haye v Mormeck's on Sky anywhere? AFAIK Reid v Froch is on Sky Sports 1 on Friday night and Cotto v Mosley's on Setanta 1 on Saturday night/Sunday morning, but I haven't seen Haye v Mormeck being listed anywhere :mad:

http://sports.setanta.com/en/Sport/...nta/?facets/sport-space/great-britain-locale/

Setanta have now picked up the rights to show Haye v Mormeck, it's on Saturday night from 7.45pm on Setanta 1, it's a cracking weekend for boxing fans with Reid v Froch on Friday and Cotto v Mosley on Sunday morning, and BBC1 are showing the Calzaghe fight at 1.10pm on Saturday. :cool:
 
Nigel Irritable said:
If his management and promoters had wanted it, Calzaghe could have fought them all. And while he wouldn't have been a certainty against a peak Hopkins or Jones, he'd have been at least an even money shot. But why the fuck did a guy with that much talent spend his peak years fighting stiffs?

The way Calzaghe was protected always irritated me. He was obviously a very talented fighter but it looked like we'd never know how good because he wouldn't take any really challenging fights. Then suddenly, when by all rational estimates he has to be past his best, he starts fighting the top guys in the world and boxing rings around them.
Hes never been protected Nigel -he was on course to fight Hopkins a couple of years ago and suddenly Hopkins doubled the money to fight him.
How the fuck was Calzaghe ever protected?
You dont know much about boxing-Calzaghe never fought Hopkins or Jones because they didnt want to.
They didnt want to because fighting a "eurobum" that they might lose for very little money isnt very appealing.
"He was obviously a very talented fighter but it looked like we'd never know how good because he wouldn't take any really challenging fights!"
Jesus Christ-he holds all the belts at his weight-hes never lost -no one has even looked liked beating him
What the fuck do you want?
 
Only just managed to see Calzaghe, on beeb earlier on today. He controlled most of the fight i thought, shaken up by Kessler in the 4th but he managed to ride that out, other than that he was running things really. He may paw a bit but fucking nuff respect to him, top top boxer and undisputed champion :cool:
 
Karac said:
Hes never been protected Nigel -he was on course to fight Hopkins a couple of years ago and suddenly Hopkins doubled the money to fight him.

Yes, and what about all of the other years from 1996 to 2006?

I am aware that at some points there were attempts to match Calzaghe with top fighters. These attempts always fell through up until 2006. Every boxer's camp says that their fighter always wanted to fight the best and that every time a fight fell through it was down to the other guy's camp.

Up until Lacy in 2006, Calzaghe fought few people of interest. He beat an old Chris Eubank. After that the biggest names on his resume were probably Mitchell, Sheika, Reid, Woodhall and Brewer. Nobody much of real note if we are talking about a pound for pound contender. In the period since Calzaghe became active Roy Jones Jr, who was often himself criticised for not taking the hardest fights, fought Tarver, Johnson, Ruiz, Woods, Griffin, McCallum, Toney and Hopkins. Hopkins fought Taylor, De la Hoya, Trinidad, Johnson and Jones Jr.

These are far more impressive lists of fighters. The idea that Calzaghe was more feared than Hopkins or Jones Jr is an obvious nonsense - Calzaghe, as he had fought few people of interest was underestimated if anything.

You can take the view that Calzaghe wanted all of those fights but nobody was willing to fight him. That's the kind of one eyed attitude which many fans of particular boxers take and it's not one that I share. His rivals managed to fight serious competition. The fact is that while Hopkins and Jones Jr were taking on top boxers, Calzaghe was beating up people who weren't in his league. He was however making a great deal of money for no risk doing so.

As I said, my problem with this is not that I begrudge any boxer the opportunity to make as much money as they can. Boxing is a tough sport with short careers. My problem is simply that Calzaghe wasted most of his prime years. Calzaghe is arguably as good as De La Hoya ever was. Unlike De La Hoya he may well retired with an unblemished record. But De La Hoya will be better remembered outside of his homeland because he fought the best over and over again.
 
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