C4 lapdancing club investigation: Dispatches on now

[Badger Kitten]

As of 5 years ago lapdancing places are licensed as 'public entertainment'.

They are regularly breaching the licensing terms, and manyare questioning whether they have the right sort of licence. A show is on now, looking at the issue. of the type of licence they are supposed to be operating under and whether it is working. It looks like it isn't.

You can't see the show, which is on now, which this thread is discussing.

So bit pointless you jumping in on the thread, IMO, JC2.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

As you are not in the UK, can't watch the programme, are not familiar with the UK high streets, the feedback from residents, Johnny, I'm afraid this thread may be difficult for you to fully participate in.n.

While we're at it, check your resident feedback on penalties for drug use, or the death penalty.

 

[Hi-ASL]

Yawn. How prudish.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

As of 5 years ago lapdancing places are licensed as 'public entertainment'.

They are regularly breaching the licensing terms, and manyare questioning whether they have the right sort of licence. A show is on now, looking at the issue. of the type of licence they are supposed to be operating under and whether it is working. It looks like it isn't.

You can't see the show, which is on now, which this thread is discussing.

So bit pointless you jumping in on the thread, IMO, JC2.

I'm not questioning the show: I'm questioning your little personal morality list.

 

[Badger Kitten]

People have sex, watch it etc here too.

Simple question: why are you so avid to control the lives of other adults? Applies in UK too, I think.

Oh do try and read the thread and understand the situation, WHICH IS ABOUT LICENSING otherwise it's just boring old trolling, isn't it Johnny?

*yawn*

 

[Kizmet]

I remember you starting a thread years ago on whether you should take pole-dancing lessons.

I'm not sure how relevant it is.. but it just made me chuckle.

How did they go, by the way?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

You do recall that you gave your personal opinion?

I think there should be tougher regulation and they should not have the same licence regulations as 'public entertainment' venues.

a) to limit the numbers of lap dancing places per '000 population
b) to have them further out of town
c) to strictly enforce the no-touching rule
d) to ban simulated sex shows ( or real sex shows)
e) to ensure both punters and dancers are not exploited. Codes of conduct should be adhered to - if the club turns a blind eye to touching, and full or simulated sex acts, and some dancers do it, the pressure is on all dancers to do it, and many do not want to.

See that bit at the beginning: 'I think'?

It's not from a show, unless you've lifted it.

I'm questioning you, you see.

 

[Badger Kitten]

LICENSING ISSUE JOHNNY
not morality, do keep up, it's all there in easy to read words.

*yawn*

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Oh do try and read the thread and understand the situation, WHICH IS ABOUT LICENSING otherwise it's just boring old trolling, isn't it Johnny?

*yawn*

No, it's about my distaste for self important moralizing prigs.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

LICENSING ISSUE JOHNNY
not morality, do keep up, it's all there ino easy to read words.

*yawn*

Why so much regulation if there's no moral issue behind it.

Why can't there be touching?

Is it your concern for public health? How about if they wear gloves?

 

[Badger Kitten]

I remember you starting a thread years ago on whether you should take pole-dancing lessons.

I'm not sure how relevant it is.. but it just made me chuckle.

How did they go, by the way?

I've been teaching pole dancing for 3 years

 

[Badger Kitten]

No, it's about my distaste for self important moralizing prigs.

Hey, I have a distaste for fuckwitted trolls.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Hey, I have a distaste for fuckwitted trolls.

And as we know, anyone who disagrees with you is a fuckwit.

 

[Badger Kitten]

Nah, but you are IMO if you can't read the posts and go in for yet another boring round of trolling

 

[Kizmet]

I've been teaching pole dancing for 3 years

Ah. Bringing down the competition.. I see...

 

[madzone]

wiff waff

 

[Badger Kitten]

Let me just pop JC2 on ignore.

Much better.

 

[Kanda]

They've just opened one in Pz

Cool, lets go when I come down, we can laugh at everyone

 

[Gromit]

Apparently we've got a brothel and a lap dancing club in our town but I couldn't tell you where either of them were.

Ask a taxi driver. They always know these things even if you don't.

I know of two brothels in Cardiff but only cause I went to a fab sandwich shop (ab fab to be precise, its name) that was next door to one and it made the papers (cause of a minister dying of a heart attack after going there, the brothel not the sandwich shop).

The other one made the papers and stuck out because the judge praised the owner on running a really safe and caring brothel... But i still got to convict you.

 

[madzone]

Cool, lets go when I come down, we can laugh at everyone

Can we take a flask and some sarnies?

 

[Kanda]

Can we take a flask and some sarnies?

Only if the flask contains Minestrone Cup-a-soup

 

[phildwyer]

it really does seem to have gone a bit far. 5 establishments in one small town of 20,000 in Cornwall ( typical example)?

They are incredibly ubiquitous. I don't think popping in for a simulated lesbian sex show should be as easy as popping in for a curry on a Tuesday night, with fully nude lapdancing bars open on every high street.

I would prefer to see more regulation and tougher licences.

What do you think?

I think I don't understand your objections. What is the problem, exactly? I'm not being facetious, I just don't see why you'd be bothered.

 

[Kizmet]

I think I don't understand your objections. What is the problem, exactly? I'm not being facetious, I just don't see why you'd be bothered.

Especially given that you apparently teach these skills to others.

 

[Badger Kitten]

I think I don't understand your objections. What is the problem, exactly? I'm not being facetious, I just don't see why you'd be bothered.

I said why on post 3, 6, 16, on page one.

 

[Badger Kitten]

Especially given that you apparently teach these skills to others.

Mmm, why could I be interested in and concerned about the happiness, non-pressurisation and protection of dancers, given that I teach dancing?

 

[phildwyer]

I said why on post 3, 6, 16, on page one.

I did read them. You say that it "changes the dynamic" of high streets after dark, and you worry that girls might be pressured into simulating sex acts when they don't want to. I didn't think those could possibly be your only reasons, because they seem so insubstantial. Maybe its just me.

 

[Kizmet]

Mmm, why could I be interested in and concerned about the happiness, non-pressurisation and protection of dancers, given that I teach dancing?

Because you glamourise an industry which you then go on to appreciate the negative effects of. Which, if I recall, was what I said you'd do at the time.

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

I did read them. You say that it "changes the dynamic" of high streets after dark, and you worry that girls might be pressured into simulating sex acts when they don't want to. I didn't think those could possibly be your only reasons, because they seem so insubstantial. Maybe its just me.

Quite surprised that you think those as being insubstantial tbh. Do these kind of things not gwan in such establishments then?

 

[madzone]

Only if the flask contains Minestrone Cup-a-soup

Minestrone cup a soup?

Salad Cream?

I can't be your friend

 

[Badger Kitten]

Because you glamourise an industry which you then go on to appreciate the negative effects of. Which, if I recall, was what I said you'd do at the time.

Glamorise, lol, you'd not say that if you saw us all.
And if I changed the format of the all-women, no-audience dance classes to belly dancing classes would that be better, or worse, because women in harems have had a very shit time historically, pawed over, bought and sold and objectified by men ?