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Bye Bye Bye Benitez.

agricola said:
Biffo,

Why then did Bayern move with such speed to get Klinsmann? Why have the yanks even admitted to this, when they could easily have denied, or ignored it? I think it is at least as likely that Klinsmann turned them down for a safer, less controversial job at Bayern.

Maybe. Maybe not. I think they felt obliged to make a statement about it as the meeting was already out in the open. If Jurgen turns round and says that they offered him the job then they their 'Tom and Jerry' tag will be even more appropriate.
 
London_Calling said:
As time passes, you start to realise just how good a job the American's did on Parry.

I may be wrong but I think Moores and the other major stakeholders (probably Parry too) got more personally from G & H than they would if DIC had taken over.
 
Biffo said:
I may be wrong but I think Moores and the other major stakeholders (probably Parry too) got more personally from G & H than they would if DIC had taken over.

If the papers are to be believed then Parry and Moores are horrified that the sale hasn't done what they wanted it to do.

I do think that there is real chance that we will see the back of them both in the next month, due to the limited availability of credit at sensible prices.
 
agricola said:
ho ho ho

One imagines this is coming to a head now, either Beneathus or the yanks will be off by the end of the season. I just hope Rick Parry is enjoying the situation given that he is largely responsible for them coming to the club and either loading it with debt or, in the best case scenario, making a sizeable profit off it.


Beneathus

FFS :rolleyes: Twat.
 
agricola said:
yanks even admitted to this, when they could easily have denied, or ignored it?
Becuase it would have come out in the media anyway, so why not pre empt it and get their reasons across first?

As a fairly neutral I find the whole thing a little sour tasting. I can understand the desire to make sure their club is not left without a manager, should Rafa have walked, but why not just open up talks with him to ensure he stayed? Surely that makes more sense - tho of course, it opens up a whole can of worms in that it perhaps shows that they would ratehr he walked away anyway?

Benitez is a great manager, and i think the american duo are somewhat blindsighted to that. If they're not careful, it become a case of of chopping and changing managers when one doesnt get the results as quickly as they think they should, ending up with a new manager every bloody season!

as for parry, what exactly does the man do for his money?

as for the coment "beneathus" - thats so laughable!
 
Rollem said:
Benitez is a great manager, and i think the american duo are somewhat blindsighted to that. If they're not careful, it become a case of of chopping and changing managers when one doesnt get the results as quickly as they think they should, ending up with a new manager every bloody season!

Benitez is far from a 'great manager'. His squad rotation policy and man management skills arent up to much. For 'great manager' see Mssrs. Wenger and Ferguson.

With the money hes spent I'm not surprised the owners are somewhat nonplussed at the results.
 
gabi said:
Benitez is far from a 'great manager'. His squad rotation policy and man management skills arent up to much. For 'great manager' see Mssrs. Wenger and Ferguson.

With the money hes spent I'm not surprised the owners are somewhat nonplussed at the results.

I don't think Benitez is a great manager either. He's done exceptionally well at Valencia and Liverpool in his short(ish) managerial career so far - but his tactics are not always spot on. However, for the first point consider age. Benitez has been more successful than Wenger and Ferguson were when they were his age.

Secondly, I was interested to read the other day that Benitez' average net spending each year has been approx £22m. That's less than several individuaal playerss at Utd and Chelsea.
 
gabi said:
With the money hes spent I'm not surprised the owners are somewhat nonplussed at the results.
take torres out of the equation, and how much has he spent - out of interest?

as for not a great manager, when did wenger or ferguson last win the champions leauge. (though i firmly believe he needs to win the premier league by next season else all will lose patience )
 
Hmmm....but I would say sustained league placings (top 3) is a better measure of success than winning a knock out cup no matter what words it has in it.
 
g force said:
Hmmm....but I would say sustained league placings (top 3) is a better measure of success than winning a knock out cup no matter what words it has in it.
:D
 
Just remember how much gloom there was in 2005. Adrift in the league, knocked out of the FA Cup by Burnley, finished the season as European champions.

The only reason that I would question him staying is if we failed to qualify for the champions league. Barring that, I would very much like to see where he could take us over the next few years. He has an eye for a player, Arbeloa, Torres etc. He has been tactically spot on in cup competitions, getting the better over Mourinho a few times ( I would hate to see him takeover for a number of reasons). I think he weill get more competent in the league if given time.

Another key to improvement is to improve the squad (obviously). We have a very good spine in Reina-Carragher-Gerrard-Torres. We need to improve the squad around them though. The likes of pennant, Kewell, Benayoun, are decent players, but cannot compare with what the 'top three' three have. So we need some investment, and I think Benitez is the man to find the right players.
 
EddyBlack said:
The only reason that I would question him staying is if we failed to qualify for the champions league.

Didn't save Houllier in the end, and I would say this season's results are echoing back to that 03-04 season. 4 years on and no major progress made in the league is just awful.

At the end of the day it's usually the Kop that calls the shot's with LFC managers. They lost patience with Houllier and so he was given the chop, despite still finishing 4th and all the players supporting him. (remember gerrard and players running towards him when they scored)

Most of the kop still seem to back Benitez but there's certainly a few grumblings from a small minority, and as the season has progresses there's a few more joining the club. If he manages to hold on to the support he'll stay but I don't think the kop will take too kindly to being in the same situation with the league as they are in now, this time next season. The next 12 month's make or break him.
 
cybershot said:
At the end of the day it's usually the Kop that calls the shot's with LFC managers.
in times of old maybe, things are changing at liverpool now....though it will remain the last arrogance of liverpool fans to think they can determine a managers position/security
 
Lutons players and manager haven't been paid in 16 weeks or so, this is worth 250k to them.

I'd like to think that the Liverpool squad were deliberately poor and without making it too obvious gave them a pay day.
 
big eejit said:
Was that on R5? He could barely get his questions out, his tongue was so far up up Rafa's arse.

Jeff Shreeves on Sky Sports. Tried 4 times to get Rafa to comment on the Klinsman story.
 
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