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118118 said:
bob_the_lost: life isn't fair, honestly. or we'd all me making the same as each other. what difference does it make if you earn x more than me thru 'talent' or "cheating".
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Translation: Life isn't fair, so i'm going to fuck you over.

What i resent is that some little shit may get a job instead of me because they cheated and came accross better in the interview. :mad:

Then there's the other occasion i've had plagarism pop up, group projects. I have no desire to fail a course because two of the group are too fucking lazy to do their own work and pull their weight, then at the last minute dump me in it by handing in obviously plagarised crap. :mad: :mad:
 
equationgitl: i've said far more about myself on here than to my tutors. maybe yiou don't read my posts? tbh, the tutor was kind enough to go through my work himself adding quotation marks.

"Translation: Life isn't fair, so i'm going to fuck you over." I'll say the same the next time you accept a job because of 'talent'.
 
Different levels of the devil's company, is that what you are saying bob. or do you see yourself as all pure and verhinal all the same?

well, that would be a matter of taste,i suppose.
 
118118 said:
oh fuck off bob.
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Sorry if my righteous anger offends you but simply fobbing it off with "life's not fair innit" is moral cowardice. If life isn't fair then it's our jobs to make it more so, not to use it as an excuse to fuck other people over. Education is supposed to be a fair system, in this case plagarists are the ones destroying it.

Make your bloody mind up, either i fuck off or i answer your posts. Make a choice. :rolleyes:
 
i''m not fobbing you off i think we must live on different planets. like i say i don't have a huge problem with plagerism. didn't you have any thick mates at schoo?l

its not fucking you over any more than you using your intelligence is fucking me over: repsond to that!
 
Calm down people. I didn't intend for this post to turn into a slanging match.

Bob's point is a fair one. The education system - and the examination system are supposed to be regarded as fair and to provide a fair assessment of an individual's ability. The moment that fairness is compromised is the moment the system begins to fall apart.

This is the problem with GCSEs and A-Levels - and is becoming more of a problem with degrees. If people and institutions lose faith in these assessments, they become worthless.
 
118118 said:
i''m not fobbing you off i think we must live on different planets. like i say i don't have a huge problem with plagerism. didn't you have any thick mates at schoo?l

its not fucking you over any more than you using your intelligence is fucking me over: repsond to that!
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Respond to it? I flunked out of one degree because i was the thick one at the university. I wasn't top of the heap, didn't put in the work and i failed because of it. Harsh, but fair.

Fair does not always mean everyone gets the same.

118118 said:
ps: you wouldn't know moral rightousness if you bit you opn the ass.
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Grow up, or at least plagarise some decent comebacks.
 
If people and institutions lose faith in these assessments, they become worthless.
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@ baby!

Nah, more seriously, if the system is inherently unfair/egalitarian etc. then not following the rules of the system is not dishonourable.

(and i cheated in all throughout my degree gcses and alevels too)
 
i'm not talking about the right to revolt or anything. just that subversion is ok in an unjust system. it helps keep us all alive. see otherwise you wouldn't be getting all don quitoe/have anything to be miserable about.
 
Bob_the_lost said:
Sorry, have you stopped bitching about how the other kids are smarter, therefore you should be allowed to cheat, yet?
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no not at all. i've stopped thinking that you are smarter is all.
 
118118 said:
@ baby!

Nah, more seriously, if the system is inherently unfair/egalitarian etc. then not following the rules of the system is not dishonourable.

(and i cheated in all throughout my degree gcses and alevels too)
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Is the system unfair? If so, how?

My problem with privatised exam boards is the conflict of interests and the plethora of qualifications that seem to have sprung up from all over the place in recent years that it is very difficult to verify what standards people are at. This is especially the case with GCSEs, A-Levels and degrees. It's become more and more difficult for employers to ascertain which ones are actually worth something and which ones are not worth the paper their printed on.
 
i am worth something :mad:

nah like course the sysytem is ufair: i for one believe in egalitarianism/humanism etc. not whatever rules regulations and laws happen to best articulate the bosses' moral system.

eta: i mean i'm not here to infalte your ego/encourage you on whatever demnted mission of fairness you have pluindered from your history.
 
118118 said:
@ baby!

Nah, more seriously, if the system is inherently unfair/egalitarian etc. then not following the rules of the system is not dishonourable.

(and i cheated in all throughout my degree gcses and alevels too)
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Whoop whoop for you.

What's so unfair about the system?Those who work hard do better than those who fuck about. It's the way things should be. Whinging that cheating is ok because you aren't as good as some other people is just pathetic
 
Prince Rhyus said:
Is the system unfair? If so, how?

My problem with privatised exam boards is the conflict of interests and the plethora of qualifications that seem to have sprung up from all over the place in recent years that it is very difficult to verify what standards people are at. This is especially the case with GCSEs, A-Levels and degrees. It's become more and more difficult for employers to ascertain which ones are actually worth something and which ones are not worth the paper their printed on.
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One thing I don't envy England is their lack of a standardised national qualification system. The SQA have their aults, but you can't doubt the fairness and equality of everyone in the country sitting the same exam at the same time
 
Fuck off back to Engalnd where those values mean something :mad:

what a pointless conversation: we lobviously live on different planets. e.g. i really don't think that anyone over the age of about 12 get to fuck around all their lives. so what are you going on about?

you genuinely think that everyone (bar a few extreme cases) who earns more than another, works harder than that other?
 
It's not fair because 118118 didn't do well.

Amusingly it's not as stupid a complaint as it seems. Some are not well suited to exams / coursework type assesment, those of us with learning difficulties are the most obviously hampered but not the only ones. Ways to make assesment easier for those people are worth looking at, almost as worth while as ways to check if some little shit has been cheating.
 
btw i'm doing fine mate. i hope anyway. imay still get a 2.1, which isn't that bad cing as i got around a 42 in the second year. and my school results are above reproach. and like i say i was very ill in the second year, which you "amusingly" seem to be ignoring in your dull dull dull "left-wing" tabloid rant.
 
yeah, cos they feed off other people's evil rather than their own. like moss or slime or something. i on the other hand am like some radioactive monster, any evil i do is cos of my molecular structure iyswim.
 
118118 said:
you genuinely think that everyone (bar a few extreme cases) who earns more than another, works harder than that other?
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That's actually a tricky one.

For example not everyone has the ability, training nor aptitude to be a heart surgeon. However, more people have the ability, training and aptitude to be cleaners.

Yet both are vital functions within our society. (I really hate it when people look down on those who carry out essential functions that enable society to function - think of those expensive car drivers who give London bus drivers a hard time on the road.)

This comes back to "each according to their abilities and needs."

The problem is in this celebrity-obsessed world, glamour models and footballers earn far more for doing far less. It's especially the case with glamour models - perpetuated by "mens" magazines and the tabloid newspapers that send out messages to people that this is a reasonable way to make a living. I personally think that people are capable of much more positive things than stripping off for a camera or selling a warts-and-all tale of sex with a footballer/soap star in the hope that it will lead to a career in glamour modelling.
 
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does this fill you with awe and respect. it does me lol.

btw i'm impressed thazt you haven't accused me of making no sesne yet :)
 
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