Bush's body language on 9/11

[FreddyB]

I've no idea, their claim is there secrecy is to allow them to ensure discretion amongst themselves. Which makes sense if you look from under you tin foil hat into the real world. The people that are memebers such as Ted Heath etc. because of their public profile are under scrutiny.

And numbnuts if there is an organisation running the world in secret behind the scences you think it would meet in a hotel (the name of the hotel they first met in is the name of the group). Or indeed the names of any members.

 

[editor]

So why the secrecy?

Maybe they prefer it that way.

Like the Masons.

Or a Health Club.

Or a Member's Club.

Or the Secret Squirrel Club.

 

[Citizen66]

And numbnuts if there is an organisation running the world in secret behind the scences you think it would meet in a hotel (the name of the hotel they first met in is the name of the group). Or indeed the names of any members.

Well that's Bullshit because they deny being called the Bilderberg group.

 

[Citizen66]

Like the Masons.

Or a Health Club.

Or a Member's Club.

Or the Secret Squirrel Club.

Yep, Panorama have done loads of documentarys on all of the above

 

[Citizen66]

Anyway... back to the body language...

 

[Jazzz]

Unless you know the exact words uttered in his ear, it's a bit of a pointless exercise trying to read into his response.

Well we know what they were, according to George himself and the official story. They were....

"America is under attack"

The school visit was publicly known. This means that any terrorist would have known where to strike in order to hit the President. Meaning that his life was in danger there - also while listening to seven-year olds, Mr. President is in no position to order crucial defense instructions or make other decisions which could be rather important, seeing as there is a national emergency underway... such a decision might be to send fighters up to patrol the skies around Washington... or even authorizing the shooting down of a civilian airliner, or maybe a nuclear response to a nuclear attack?

Why do they bother having a guy with a football chained to his wrist never far from the President, if when an emergency develops, he'll stay talking to the kids? It begs credulity.

I seem to be the first to produce a video of Bush and the kids on 9-11

here it is...

 

[bigfish]

it was in the minutes afterwards darth when he just sat there having received the news. he looked alarmed.

Really? He looks the opposite to me.

Here are some stills of Bush 1 minute after being told, see for yourself.

And here's a video of the period from being told up until the class ends and a frame by frame break down.

http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/bush-911.htm

 

[editor]

It begs credulity.

so what do you think was really going on then, DrJ?

If it was all a crazy conspiracy, you'd think they would have got this first, rather important bit sorted out, wouldn't you?

So why did 'they' allow Bush to look like he was a clueless eejit if the aim of the exercise was to win votes and start wars?

Any ideas?

 

[editor]

And here's a video of the period from being told up until the class ends and a frame by frame break down.

Just out of curiosity, exactly what is this fascinating collection of frames supposed to prove?

 

[Citizen66]

so what do you think was really going on then, DrJ?

Come on Editor, if the attack was completely unexpected and he'd just been told a second plane had hit the towers, why wasn't he suddenly shifted to a more safe environment to A) be safe? B) make vital decisions?

Conspiracy theories aside... Is that how they teach the kids in the US? LOL ... Speaking bullshit be-good-to-your-neighbour type rhetoric in rhythm to a banging pair of scissors (or was it a pen?)

I guess he was clearly more concerned that the good ole American citizen indochtrination program was being followed flawlessly, than he was his own personal safety on that particular day...

 

[Citizen66]

Just out of curiosity, exactly what is this fascinating collection of frames supposed to prove?

He seems fairly relaxed?

 

[bigfish]

Just out of curiosity, exactly what is this fascinating collection of frames supposed to prove?

That he does not appear unduly alarmed as JJ claims he did, nothing more.

How does he appear to you?

 

[editor]

How does he appear to you?

He looked as stupid as he always does. His face is hardly the most animated I've ever seen - I imagine that monkey faced twat is good at poker - so I remain at a complete loss to see what this discussion is trying to establish.

So why not give me a straight answer to my question: exactly what is this fascinating collection of frames of Bush being told about the WTC supposed to prove? If he does not appear 'unduly alarmed' - so what?

What does that prove?

 

[Jazzz]

so what do you think was really going on then, DrJ?

If it was all a crazy conspiracy, you'd think they would have got this first, rather important bit sorted out, wouldn't you?

So why did 'they' allow Bush to look like he was a clueless eejit if the aim of the exercise was to win votes and start wars?

Any ideas?

Yes, I do.

But first, let's note the extraordinary nature of your argument.

You are saying that where;

1) Events appear consistent with the official theory

... means we have no reason to suspect a conspiracy

2) Events do not appear consistent with the official theory

... means we have no reason to suspect a conspiracy, because if there was one, they would have got it right!!!!

How on earth do you expect anyone to take your posts seriously when you are willing to throw away logic and indeed any capacity for independent thought out of the window like this?

 

[editor]

Yes, I do.

You're the one that keeps posting up bonkers conspiracy drivel like "Operation Pretend You're About to be Killed by a Terrorist" and "Huntley is Innocent!" so you tell me: what does Bush's reaction supposedly prove to you?

If he'd rushed off waving his arms about, you'd no doubt be examining the footage and now declaring his reaction 'faked' or 'not panicked enough', so it seems rather pointless entertaining your cod-psychological analysis.

You're so obsessed with conspiracies, that whatever he did, you'd declare it suspicious and confirmation of some outlandish 'theory' found in the internet.

PS There is no 'official theory' as to Bush's reaction you silly, silly boy.

 

[pk]

His reaction proves nothing, his body language proves nothing.

Please tune your tin-foil hat reciever kits to Joe Vialls FM for further updates.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Yes, but unless you know the exact wording, speculating on the significance of his reaction remains a meaningless exercise.

For example, any one of these comments may have been whispered in his shell like:

1. "Mr President, another plane has hit the WTC tower. We're not sure what's going on. It could be a terrorist strike."

2. " We have a major crisis. We'll have the full information for you in five minutes. Look relaxed."

3. "Aiiieeee! Run for your life! It's the end of the world! Al Q and his gang have hit town. We're all dooooomed"

4. "Fuck! Shit's going on! Don't panic! Jump in your jet in five minutes and we'll set off on the wrong direction".

5. "(mad cackle) Your cunning plan is underway and we'll be firing the planted explosives in the WTC towers shortly". Your white pussy awaits you in your secret bunker.

I thought it was public record: CNN

"Had I been reading to children and had my top aide whispered in my ear, 'America is under attack,' I would have told those kids very politely and nicely that the president of the United States had something that he needed to attend to -- and I would have attended to it," Kerry told the Unity conference of minority journalists in response to a question about what he would done.

 

[Jazzz]

You're the one that keeps posting up bonkers conspiracy drivel like "Operation Pretend You're About to be Killed by a Terrorist" and "Huntley is Innocent!" so you tell me: what does Bush's reaction supposedly prove to you?

If he'd rushed off waving his arms about, you'd no doubt be examining the footage and now declaring his reaction 'faked' or 'not panicked enough', so it seems rather pointless entertaining your cod-psychological analysis.

You're so obsessed with conspiracies, that whatever he did, you'd declare it suspicious and confirmation of some outlandish 'theory' found in the internet.

Absolutely routine procedure was not followed. The president's life was in danger, and he had a country to run.

Yet, he stayed listening to 7-year-olds!

You don't have to be a CT to go... hang on a minute, this ain't right. He didn't excuse himself. Nor did secret services pick him up bodily and whisk him away, as they were meant to. Here's the words of Lorie van Auken, a 9-11 widow, who doesn't share your 'everything was fine and dandy' attitude to the President's inactivity:

"I couldn’t stop watching the President sitting there, listening to second graders, while my husband was burning in a building," she said.

I don't care about his body language, though if I was to give me impression, I would say he was a rabbit in the headlights. There was a gap betweed the WTC crashes and the Pentagon hit, and he better not muck things up by either saying anything he wasn't meant to know, or running the military so he would be to blame for the failure to intercept flight 77.

It's not just the President who was metaphorically locked in the lavatory on 9-11! In fact all of the military top brass were!!!!

Mindy pieced together the actions of Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld. He had been in his Washington office engaged in his "usual intelligence briefing." After being informed of the two attacks on the World Trade Center, he proceeded with his briefing until the third hijacked plane struck the Pentagon. Mindy relayed the information to Kristen:

"Can you believe this? Two planes hitting the Twin Towers in New York City did not rise to the level of Rumsfeld’s leaving his office and going to the war room to check out just what the hell went wrong." Mindy sounded scared. "This is my President. This is my Secretary of Defense. You mean to tell me Rumsfeld had to get up from his desk and look out his window at the burning Pentagon before he knew anything was wrong? How can that be?"

four 9-11 moms battle bush

PS There is no 'official theory' as to Bush's reaction you silly, silly boy.

yes there is, read the link to find it. You are making things up again - desperate. As to your laughable attempt at patronising me, I suggest that you are 'projecting'

 

[pk]

It proves Bush is a clueless cunt.

You have no idea what went on behind the scenes any more than I do.

Of course, twats like Joe Vialls will be only to glad to fill in the gaps for you.

Oh - he was in Australia at the time, by the way.

 

[Citizen66]

I'd like to join in the debate if the machoistic idiot PK can promise not to use ancient, irrelevent, factless snippets of my personal life as leverage against my arguments. Come on editor, this is where your job really counts, enforcing the 'no personal details' rule in your FAQ...

Will the editor enforce his editorial might when he's not being disagreed with, I wonder...

 

[Jazzz]

I join in the same appeal to editor, whatever the disagreements on the thread.

 

[editor]

Will the editor enforce his editorial might when he's not being disagreed with, I wonder...:

pk's pissing me off with his aggressive antics, but no more than you with your endless, infantile snipes.

And your continuing condescending tone gives me precious little enthusiasm to 'enforce my editorial might' on your behalf.

pk's already been warned, as have you.

Oh, and I've really had a bellyful of all this shit today, so I'd think twice before posting up yet another of your snidey comments.

 

[Citizen66]

pk's pissing me off with his aggressive antics, but no more than you with your endless, infantile snipes.

And your continuing condescending tone gives me precious little enthusiasm to 'enforce my editorial might' on your behalf.

pk's already been warned, as have you.

Oh, and I've really had a bellyful of all this shit today, so I'd think twice before posting up yet another of your snidey comments.

I'll refrain from resorting to cheap pedantry over your last post then, you've probably been to the pub tonight, as have I.

Until tomorrow then...

A new day!

 

[editor]

I'll refrain from resorting to cheap pedantry over your last post then, you've probably been to the pub tonight, as have I.

I haven't actually.

 

[Citizen66]

I haven't actually.

I was excusing your typos. Anyway, whatever, sorry for the grief etc

 

[bigfish]

He looked as stupid as he always does. His face is hardly the most animated I've ever seen - I imagine that monkey faced twat is good at poker - so I remain at a complete loss to see what this discussion is trying to establish.

So why not give me a straight answer to my question: exactly what is this fascinating collection of frames of Bush being told about the WTC supposed to prove? If he does not appear 'unduly alarmed' - so what?

What does that prove?

That was a straight answer editor, believe it or not. JJ commented that he thought Bush looked pretty worried. I don't think he did and posted up pics to illustrate that point. To me, he doesnt looks unduly concerned by what he's just been told by Andrew Card.

 

[editor]

That was a straight answer editor, believe it or not. JJ commented that he thought Bush looked pretty worried. I don't think he did and posted up pics to illustrate that point. To me, he doesnt looks unduly concerned by what he's just been told by Andrew Card.

So what kind of face would have convinced you of his 'concern'?

You are aware, of course, that people all react entirely differently to bad/good news and only an idiot would start to draw fantastic conclusions from a facial expression?

 

[bigfish]

So what kind of face would have convinced you of his 'concern'?

You are aware, of course, that people all react entirely differently to bad/good news and only an idiot would start to draw fantastic conclusions from a facial expression?

I think all one can do is draw a subjective impression from the footage or the stills. Like you, I think Bush is a cipher, the proverbial empty vessel that others fill with content de jour.

I can even countenance the idea that he was being played from both ends by his handlers. The delay in him donning the mantle of commander in chief meant that someone else was actually in charge while he wasn't.

That person by all accounts was Dick Cheney who on the very morning the so called hijackings happened just happened himself to be playing commander in chief of the armed forces from a bunker beneath a mountain during multiple air defense exercises.

Perhaps Bush had been led up the garden path to believe that certain procedural formalities hooked into these scheduled military exercises had to pass up the chain of command and that the message "America is under attack" passed on by Card was simply part of the scenario. In other words, he had no need to become animated, because he didn't think a real attack was happening. Only it was.

 

[fela fan]

His reaction proves nothing, his body language proves nothing.

I'd agree.

But what i find more interesting is his actions after being told his country was under attack. Or rather his non-actions.

To me that explains he either knew it was coming, or more likely in my mind, he simply had no idea the attack was coming at all. He has proven himself over and over to be stupid with little brain capacity for dealing with unexpected actions in life.

I believe he was incapable of comprehending what was happening, and if he did realise, he just made the deciscion to carry on what he was doing due to faulty/absent neurons from abuse of drugs and booze over the years, never mind a pretty IQless brain anyway.

That leaves the question why automated procedures failed to automate. Ie, the president should have been whisked right out of the publicly known location he was at. Immediately.

I'd like to know why he was allowed to stay in that classroom.

 

[Backatcha Bandit]

Maybe he just wanted to know what happened to 'Mr. Goat'.