Bush confuses terrorism with wind

[nino_savatte]

Another apologist for Islamic terrorists. And that is a dumb analogy by the way.

Islamic terrorists are killing the majority of Iraqi people, not the US. They are the ones blowing up funeral processions and barber shops.

And I thought thousands of Iraqis were dying before the invasion with the sanctions and all. All those women and children that could not get milk. Plus Saddam and his family are no longer in charge. Is that really a bad thing?

And if you want to talk about other countries be my guest. We can take them one by one.

How is Jangla "apologising" for "Islamic terrorists" mears?

You also forget that the US and its allies routinely bombed water treatment plants and power stations during the invasion. The country was bombed routinely by the US and UK between 1991 - 2002. It seems to me that you are being a little sloppy with the facts.

 

[nino_savatte]

I would describe those "terrorist enemies" as evil nihilists lacking any coherent ideology.

How would you describe them?

I would describe Randists and social darwinists as "nihilists". As you sow so shall you reap.

Here's another thing: do the 2 main political parties in the US have a coherent ideology? No, they do not: they are only perceived as being either "conservative" or "liberal"...a perception that is largely aided by the construction of party political identities by the media. Lieberman may be a Democrat but he's no liberal.

 

[Jangla]

Another apologist for Islamic terrorists. And that is a dumb analogy by the way.

Islamic terrorists are killing the majority of Iraqi people, not the US. They are the ones blowing up funeral processions and barber shops.

And I thought thousands of Iraqis were dying before the invasion with the sanctions and all. All those women and children that could not get milk. Plus Saddam and his family are no longer in charge. Is that really a bad thing?

And if you want to talk about other countries be my guest. We can take them one by one.

I've made no apologies for terrorists, Islamic or otherwise - I pointed out the blatent hipocracy of a man who won't attend a single US service man's funeral making comments about the value of life.

Bush's quote was without conditions and yet you, mears, are attempting to add them yourself. You've even used the same, tired arguments about SH. In fact, I'll sink to your level and use one myself - YOU PUT SH IN POWER IN THE FIRST PLACE. You are the worst apologist of all.

Don't remember you rallying against the sanctions the US put in place. Don't remember you refusing to sell SH weapons. Don't remember you bothering to count the innocent civilians killed in the invasion.

Don't tell me you or Bush value any life created outside your own borders; it won't wash. You barely value US lives unless they're above the poverty line.

 

[poster342002]

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[mears]

I've made no apologies for terrorists, Islamic or otherwise - I pointed out the blatent hipocracy of a man who won't attend a single US service man's funeral making comments about the value of life.

Bush's quote was without conditions and yet you, mears, are attempting to add them yourself. You've even used the same, tired arguments about SH. In fact, I'll sink to your level and use one myself - YOU PUT SH IN POWER IN THE FIRST PLACE. You are the worst apologist of all.

Don't remember you rallying against the sanctions the US put in place. Don't remember you refusing to sell SH weapons. Don't remember you bothering to count the innocent civilians killed in the invasion.

Don't tell me you or Bush value any life created outside your own borders; it won't wash. You barely value US lives unless they're above the poverty line.

Make no apologies but can't speak out against them. Which makes you an apologist.

I don't remember you advancing any agenda in Iraq save the status quo.

 

[Fruitloop]

WTF are you on, mears? This is not debate.

Piss off.

 

[nino_savatte]

Notice how mears has avoided dealing with any of the points I've made. What does that say about him?

 

[nino_savatte]

Make no apologies but can't speak out against them. Which makes you an apologist.

I don't remember you advancing any agenda in Iraq save the status quo.

How? This is what I would describe as "thinking by numbers"...it worked for the redbaiting anti-communists of the 40's and 50's, so why shouldn't it work for you - right?

 

[El Jugador]

Considering the idea that a hurricane can be started by a butterfly in South America flapping its wings, I'm surprised that Bu$h hasn't yet declared a "war against budderflies"

 

[KeyboardJockey]

Make no apologies but can't speak out against them. Which makes you an apologist.

I don't remember you advancing any agenda in Iraq save the status quo.

Mears, you are very much mistaken. You will find tht there are loads of people on here who have condemned terrorism of all types both from state and non state sources.

The only apologist for violently fucking over civilians on this thread is you with your constant mindless parroting of what ever bullshit you have been fed by your government and its propaganda machine.

I'm not anti american, in fact the fact I can live my life the way I do is because of the ideas that were formulated by various americans and others over the years. The only thing I'm anti about in this context is I'm anti the people in power who are fucking up your country and others.

 

[cemertyone]

'Bush clumsily changes the subject from Katrina to terrorism' perhaps. A very poor bit of writing. This bit is far better:
utter bollox but much better.

He is certainly attempting to remove distinction between AQ and Palestinian terrorism.and then bangs on about Israel at some length.

I`m truly fucking STAGGERD by the above...words fail me for once ( even vindictive one`s)... added to add...Bush`s words fail me not oi2002...

 

[oi2002]

I would describe those "terrorist enemies" as evil nihilists lacking any coherent ideology.

How would you describe them?

You really like your world simplified down to toddler level don't you. Baathist, Palestian nationalist, Kurdish nationalist, Iraqi nationalist, Islamist nationalist, Islamist internationalist, Salafi Jihadi...

Rudepundit is perplexed:

After going through his same blah, blah, blah list of shit he thinks will do some good for the poor and ruined of the Gulf Coast, Bush made this incredible, lemur-like, crazy-legged jump from one jungle tree to the next: "You know, something we -- I've been thinking a lot about how America has responded, and it's clear to me that Americans value human life, and value every person as important. And that stands in stark contrast, by the way, to the terrorists we have to deal with. You see, we look at the destruction caused by Katrina, and our hearts break. They're the kind of people who look at Katrina and wish they had caused it." Although one might argue that perhaps one of their butterflies flapped its terrorist wings and started the air moving that would cause Katrina, what the fuck?

 

[Jangla]

Make no apologies but can't speak out against them. Which makes you an apologist.

I don't remember you advancing any agenda in Iraq save the status quo.

Riiiiight. So by staying on topic, I'm an apologiser for everything I don't mention in any given post? Your stupidity continues to amaze me...and not in a good way.

 

[Ae589]

Make no apologies but can't speak out against them. Which makes you an apologist.

I don't remember you advancing any agenda in Iraq save the status quo.

Hey, hey, HEEEEEEY!

The point of the thread was to show how Bush will try and relate *anything* to the war on terror. It's not another chance for you to claim that *we* are the apologists and the cause of terror, and you are the heroes who are going to save our ass, because last time I checked, that hadn't happened. Now, back to the wind.

"Wind is the quasi-horizontal movement of air (as opposed to an air current) caused by a horizontal pressure gradient force. It occurs at all scales, from local breezes generated by heating of land surfaces and lasting tens of minutes to global winds resulting from solar heating of the Earth. The two major influences on the atmospheric circulation are the differential heating between the equator and the poles, and the rotation of the planet (Coriolis effect)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind

 

[El Jugador]

...They're the kind of people who look at Katrina and wish they had caused it.

Why oh why do people like Bush keep on making comments like this? As if they're somehow an informed party to what their enemies want and what these enemies stand for? We hear it all the time, "they hate freedom" and "they want to do evil" or whatever such bullshit. Like he fucking knows! I'm becoming deeply suspicious of such people who try and act as mouthpieces for their enemies aims - Tell you what Bushyboy, you tell us what you stand for and we'll let Alquaida speak for themselves yep?

 

[nino_savatte]

Why oh why do people like Bush keep on making comments like this? As if they're somehow an informed party to what their enemies want and what these enemies stand for? We hear it all the time, "they hate freedom" and "they want to do evil" or whatever such bullshit. Like he fucking knows! I'm becoming deeply suspicious of such people who try and act as mouthpieces for their enemies aims - Tell you what Bushyboy, you tell us what you stand for and we'll let Alquaida speak for themselves yep?

Aye, for a grown man he doesn't half come out with some juvenile comments.

 

[onemonkey]

"if you are not with us, you are with the meteorologists"

next he'll be confusing el nino and al quaida

oh no wait.. global warming doesn't exist does it?

 

[mears]

Hey, hey, HEEEEEEY!

The point of the thread was to show how Bush will try and relate *anything* to the war on terror. It's not another chance for you to claim that *we* are the apologists and the cause of terror, and you are the heroes who are going to save our ass, because last time I checked, that hadn't happened. Now, back to the wind.

"Wind is the quasi-horizontal movement of air (as opposed to an air current) caused by a horizontal pressure gradient force. It occurs at all scales, from local breezes generated by heating of land surfaces and lasting tens of minutes to global winds resulting from solar heating of the Earth. The two major influences on the atmospheric circulation are the differential heating between the equator and the poles, and the rotation of the planet (Coriolis effect)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind

I see, we don't want to talk about Muslim and or Arab terrorists. All America all the time.

I think Bush's analogy is just fine. The US, at this moment, faces two major external challenges. Natural disasters and Islamic terrorism. You in Europe just have to deal with Islamic terrorism.The evil lurking in our respective countries. The evil that killed innocent civilians whose only crime was showing up for work. Same as 9-11 comrade. Maybe if we close our eyes it will dissipate like a bad dream. What do you think?

Not only do Muslim and or Arab terrorists wish they caused the destruction caused by hurricane Katrina they would like to cause similar destruction in Britian, Spain, Australia Italy Turkey...

Eyes wide shut.

 

[pbman]

The Soviets did not "attack" Afghanistan, they were invited in by the pro-Soviet government.
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ROFLMAO

You mind if we use that one sometime?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

INot only do Muslim and or Arab terrorists wish they caused the destruction caused by hurricane Katrina they would like to cause similar destruction in Britian, Spain, Australia Italy Turkey...

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No doubt; but meanwhile, Bush's neglect likely killed more people in the Gulf States than the terrorists managed to kill on 911.

 

[Maidmarian]

I see, we don't want to talk about Muslim and or Arab terrorists. All America all the time.

But that`s because THIS thread is about Bush !

There are loads of other threads about terrorism & indeed, every other subject under the sun.

 

[nino_savatte]

ROFLMAO

You mind if we use that one sometime?

How about you check the facts before you leap in with both feet? You show absolutely no knowledge of history: either recent or distant. Therefore your ROTFLMAO may as well be directed to your inability to understand anythoing that isn't related to the usual liberal v conservative nonsense.

 

[nino_savatte]

I see, we don't want to talk about Muslim and or Arab terrorists. All America all the time.

Mears, what is this thread about?

 

[ViolentPanda]

How about you check the facts before you leap in with both feet? You show absolutely no knowledge of history: either recent or distant. Therefore your ROTFLMAO may as well be directed to your inability to understand anythoing that isn't related to the usual liberal v conservative nonsense.

Peebs gets his "history" from books recommended in his copy of the "American Free Press". Hardly surprising that he knows absolutely nothing about history but lots about right-wing mythology, is it?

 

[ViolentPanda]

Mears, what is this thread about?

In mears' head, like every thread, this one is about "Never America, any of the time".

 

[Ae589]

I think Bush's analogy is just fine.

"You see, we look at the destruction caused by Katrina, and our hearts break. ... It's a war on terror."

You do? I removed one sentence.

"You see, we look at the destruction caused by 911, and our hearts break... It's a war on mother nature."


Ignore for a min it's Bush, you and I will never see eye to eye on him. Don't you think it's manipulation of people's emotions to get them to side with you after a cock up? Hey, find a Democrat version if it makes you feel better.

All ludicrous answers on an English chatboard, all the time.

 

[Jo/Joe]

Mears, have you anything new to add about Muslim terrorists? I feel I understand Al-Q well enough, given what information is available.

They want the West out of the Holy land, primarily the US.

They are prepared to use whatever means are available to achieve this. Just like any political organisation, our govts included. This means they are prepared to kill innocent people. Just like our govts.

What else is there?

Bush however, is the most powerful person in the West. He significantly influences UK politics, and so we are perfectly entitled to criticise him where necessary.