Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
The funny thing about this thread is the idea that they're some weird new development.
BUS LANE cameras? FFS!
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Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
pogofish said:
Tiny little backwaters like Manchester you mean?
pembrokestephen
New Member
You need to have a good chat with Cobbles. In fact, get 3 or 4 more together, and you can have a petrolhead circle jerk. Just don't do it in a bus lane.johnnymarrsbars said:
maomao
普費斯
johnnymarrsbars said:
It's a bit dodgy in the wind, but an old fashioned newspaper delivery bag will hold A2. I've done it loads of times (always insisted on being paid for a van job though). How about we renationalise the buses? That should solve 99% of the problems you're whinging about in this thread.
Tom A
Goat among sheep
johnnymarrsbars
www.friendrock.co.uk
the privatisation of the public transport system has been a complete and utter cockup full stop.
virgin trains boast about the 'modern' tilting trains, but we had the exact same thing in the late 70s!
london have it nailed though- one company runs everything, you can pay easily with oyster and it doesnt cost the earth.
and it runs on time. i've never had to wait more than about 10 minutes for a bus anywhere in london.
virgin trains boast about the 'modern' tilting trains, but we had the exact same thing in the late 70s!
london have it nailed though- one company runs everything, you can pay easily with oyster and it doesnt cost the earth.
and it runs on time. i've never had to wait more than about 10 minutes for a bus anywhere in london.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
Haha, you've never taken a night bus then!
pembrokestephen said:
You mean like the 1.8 million who signed the No10 petition against road tolls.
Hopefully the politicos will remember that it was Sierra man who kept Mrs Thatcher in power for a decade and this was only eclipsed when Mondeo man voted for that nice Mr Blair. As shown by the 3 to 1 vote against an Edinburgh congestion charge, if anyone bothers to ask, anti-motoring measures whether taken at a local or national level are screamingly unpopular.
It's just a pity that unlike the French we're ridiculously reserved otherwise every new bus lane impinging on the rights of people to use the whole road would be met with civil disobedience and burnt out buses.
There should be a Godwin's Law Mk II for folks like Cobbles. Instead of invoking comparisons with Nazis, Godwin's law II concerns the unedifying spectacle of otherwise francophobic posters tripping over themselves suggest that if it 'was in France, they'd be rioting.'
It's a little unconvincing isn't it? Can you imagine Cobbles and his lesser-Clarkson schtick in a beret?
It's a little unconvincing isn't it? Can you imagine Cobbles and his lesser-Clarkson schtick in a beret?
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
johnnymarrsbars said:
You have been lucky, then!
Even in zone 1, I have had to wait longer than 10 minutes for a bus, so have been late for an appointment.
In the outer zones, it is common to wait a lot longer than that, even if the timetable says the buses come "every 10-12 minutes"!
Guineveretoo said:You have been lucky, then!
Even in zone 1, I have had to wait longer than 10 minutes for a bus, so have been late for an appointment.
In the outer zones, it is common to wait a lot longer than that, even if the timetable says the buses come "every 10-12 minutes"!
We've got a great new system in edinburgh operating on some routes at some bus stops (rendering its 1M cost a waste to start with) - buses are tracked and at the stop punters can see exactly how late the service they're waiting for is going to be.
It does help with overcrowding at the two half hour slots in the day when the buses aren't 70% empty as most folk give up waiting and get a taxi instead.
pembrokestephen
New Member
I signed the No10 petition against road tolls.Cobbles said:
The difference is that I can recognise the distinction between oppressive and pointless legislation to turn motorists into even fatter cash cows for the government, and practical, sensible measures designed to make the concept of public transport more workable.
What worries me about the way this government is operating, though, is that just about every measure they take is, to put the best interpretation on it, open to being seen as a rip-off, rather than stepping stones towards a sensible balance between public and private transport. Which, of course, then feeds into the views of agenda-led people like you, Cobbles, who are always ready to grab any scrap that they can use to claim some kind of vendetta against Mr Sierra.
Actually, the French have a very civilised and sensible attitude towards public transport. Unlike here, where extreme and ludicrous views like yours are actually to some extent part of the mainstream position, the French seem to recognise the value of good, solid public transport infrastructure.Cobbles said:
mauvais
on reddit or something
I'm looking forward to more "astonished at punishment" threads on urban. ONLY today i was INNOCENTLY smashing some BITCH over the head with a hefty PIPE in the bookies cos she'd set off the alarm when I tried to RAID the place and all of a sudden WOULD YOU BELIEVE IT a policeman arrived and did the EXACT SAME THING to me, the unpleasant copycat TWERP. I was OUTRAGED I can tell you. Who is he to stop me engaging in some poorly coordinated robbery?
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
Cobbles - The 3-1 vote against the Edinburgh CC plan had as much to do with the detail of the proposal as it did with car-loving. With that plan, all road users, private or PT would have to be paying for the best part of a decade before any significant PT improvements began. Also, mobody trusted the council/LRT to sit on a cash-cow like that one & not abuse it.
There is no garuntee that just because they call it the same as London's, it will be anything like as well thought-out or funded. Indeed, all the schemes proposed so far for other cities have been well short of it. Most just involve handing a monopoly to corporate cunts like First or Stagecoach, with only the vaguest promise of future benefits.
There is no garuntee that just because they call it the same as London's, it will be anything like as well thought-out or funded. Indeed, all the schemes proposed so far for other cities have been well short of it. Most just involve handing a monopoly to corporate cunts like First or Stagecoach, with only the vaguest promise of future benefits.
pogofish said:
Drivel - no matter how the Council chose to spin the huge and costly defeat it was simply Edinburgh's electorate giving the Council's rabidly car hating stance two fingers.
They tried to pretend that "This vote is an endorsement of our alternative strategy" - they might as well have said that the vote was an endordsement for the return of the divine right of Monarchs - that wasn't a question on the referendum paper either......
They were roundly criticised in advance for asking a question that was full of double negatives and didn't actually mention the congestion charge in the hope that folk wouldn't understand it and just vote yes (it dribbled on about voting in favour of the Council's plans for public transport improvements - who's going to say no to improvements - 75% of those who voted......
Thanks to a number of campaigns including the local evening paper, nobody was conned.
It'll be interesting to see what happens to them at the Local Elections in May.
johnnymarrsbars
www.friendrock.co.uk
mauvais said:
yeah, thats basically the exact same thing as driving down an empty bus lane when running late isn't it.
prick.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Cobbles said:
I trust you'd support my right to walk down the middle of the road whenever I felt like it?
Monkeygrinder's Organ said:
So long as you're prepared to bear the appropriate responsibility and carry 3rd party insurance for any accidents you may cause and do so within the law, then yes.
Just don't try walking in one of those precious bus lanes, though or you'll provoke a hissy fit.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
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Cobbles said:
Within the law? So you accept legal restrictions on the 'right' to use the road.
Like a bus lane perhaps.
George & Bill
semiotically superfluous
johnnymarrsbars said:
you and all the other miserable tossers who complain about such things as traffic enforcement cameras should really get together and consolidate your reasoning because for each of you that complains about cameras being a waste of money there is another busy being outraged at the fact that they raise money
. Except that even with only 6 people on the bus, which is probably only a fraction of the reality, the typical amound of cars they would otherwise use (4, since typical car occupancy is around 1.5 people per car) would take up more room, burn more fuel, waste more space (cars are out of use more than busses), and create pollution in their manufacture due to the faster rate at which they are turned over (you admit that busses in manchester have been serving for over 30 years, which is many times longer than a car would last.
And appart from that, what about the people who can't afford to buy a car?!
bus lanes just clog up traffic. if we removed them then everyone would get to where they're going more smoothly.
If everyone took that approach then they would drive in the bus lane like you, when no busses where there, and when a bus did come along the bus lane would be full of cars, you moron.
George & Bill
semiotically superfluous
Cobbles said:
This is fairly unlikely to happan AFAIK, whether in a modern bus or in the sweetcorn-powered eco-scooter you'll be driving in a few years when the oil reserves run out
longdog
What is it you can't face?
I've got no beef with bus lanes even though I've been ticketed for driving a truck in one (there was no other way out short of driving 200 metres backwards in to oncoming traffic and a traffic warden gave me the all clear.) I did want to challenge it but I thought for £30 it wasn't worth the hassle.
and a traffic warden gave me the all clear.) I did want to challenge it but I thought for £30 it wasn't worth the hassle.
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