BUS LANE cameras? FFS!

[johnnymarrsbars]

if you can come up with a way to easily carry an A2 portfolio on a pushbike every morning i'll buy you a pint.

 

[Tom A]

fucking joke. i love manchester but the transport here is shocking. every londoner moans about london transport but whenever i'm in london it amazes me just how cheap, clean and efficient it is.

What pisses me off is that cancelled the Metrolink extension but can still find money for London's Crossrail, which will provide at best a limited improvement to the transport system in London, may restrict rail frieght movments, and also cause much disruption to Whitechapel so that City slickers can have a nice direct rail link to Heathrow Airport. As much as I like London the "London-centricity" of the central government when it comes to transport really pisses me off.

Also in order to benefit from cheap fares in London you need one of those Oyster cards that can track wherever you go, record your travel habits (not that I have any reason to hide them).

 

[pogofish]

driving down a chocker block road, in a bit of a rush so nipped down the EMPTY bus lane just to be greeted by this little fucking smart car behind a bush with a cctv camera on the roof.

Bus lane cameras went live here well over a year ago, with permanantly sited cameras & a number of bus-mounted units. Thanks to a combination of truly bad siting & a lack of the appropriate permissions, nearly every ticket issued had to be scrapped & refunded by the time the system celebrated its first birthday. Even though they have updated many of the cameras with new units that have both approach & follow-on cameras as well, to catch abusers who duck in & out of the lane to avoid the camera, AFAIK, the system is still out of action whilst they sort-out the legalitles. However, they may well be worthwile as the one approaching a major junction near me averaged something like 700 tickets a week when it was in operation.

 

[johnnymarrsbars]

Also in order to benefit from cheap fares in London you need one of those Oyster cards that can track wherever you go, record your travel habits (not that I have any reason to hide them).

thats not strictly true. although oystercards to track where you're going they dont contain any personal details. when i got mine i just walked up to the ticket office at euston underground station and asked for an oystercard. gave the bloke my 3 quid and a tenner to put on it and walked off. never asked for my name or anything.

 

[Guineveretoo]

thats not strictly true. although oystercards to track where you're going they dont contain any personal details. when i got mine i just walked up to the ticket office at euston underground station and asked for an oystercard. gave the bloke my 3 quid and a tenner to put on it and walked off. never asked for my name or anything.

Indeed. You only need to register them if you want to top them up online. So I didn't register mine.

 

[Cobbles]

people who block bus lanes should be shot

It's appalling the number of buses you get nose to tail blocking progress in some bus lane systems as operators can't seem to grasp the simple fact that the driver is there to drive, not take fares and offer travel advice. The worst is when one of th sods sticks their thumb out the window and expects to be let straight out into the other lane - not on my watch - wait for a gap.......

 

[Guineveretoo]

sounds like the perfect solution. the metrolink is fast, green and (apart from smelling of piss) relatively comfortable.

it'll never happen though. they'll put it to places like eccles and altringham where everyone commutes in their land rovers anyway but not to places like didsbury or oldham where its actually needed. as i said, they bult a huge tram station on oldham road thats now never going to get used because they ran out of money to build the actual tram line.

fucking joke. i love manchester but the transport here is shocking. every londoner moans about london transport but whenever i'm in london it amazes me just how cheap, clean and efficient it is.

Have you actually tried public transport in Manchester? For getting around the city centre, it's pretty damn good. It's even pretty good getting into the city centre, in order to allow for you to pick up the pretty damn good buses and trams.

IME, of course.

I don't live in Manchester, but my sister and my brother both do (and lots of other relatives, but I avoid them even more than I avoid my siblings!), and I have lots of friends there, and visit quite often.

Admittedly, I don't often commute (only when I have a meeting in Manchester and stay with one of my siblings) but, when I do, I have found it pretty refreshing compared to the smelly, overcrowded, overheated transport system in London!

 

[magneze]

the driver is there to drive, not take fares and offer travel advice

I think you'll find that's bollocks.

 

[johnnymarrsbars]

It's appalling the number of buses you get nose to tail blocking progress in some bus lane systems as operators can't seem to grasp the simple fact that the driver is there to drive, not take fares and offer travel advice. The worst is when one of th sods sticks their thumb out the window and expects to be let straight out into the other lane - not on my watch - wait for a gap.......

precisely.

when i win the lottery i'm going to buy a tank and flatten the fuckers.


buses are everything that is wrong with the world.

fuck off the buses, clear the roads, introduce incentives to car pool (such as a scheme where poolers get fuel discount or something) and sort the trams out.

job done.

 

[Guineveretoo]

precisely.

when i win the lottery i'm going to buy a tank and flatten the fuckers.


buses are everything that is wrong with the world.

fuck off the buses, clear the roads, introduce incentives to car pool (such as a scheme where poolers get fuel discount or something) and sort the trams out.

job done.

FFS

 

[pogofish]

i dont see the harm in using a bus lane when there are NO BUSES around.

Till very recently, we had 24-hr bus lanes, with cameras but there was no 24-hr bus services to use them & the bus companiess were resisting pressure to introduce them

There are still no 24 hr services on those lanes but they have eventually adjusted the hours of operation.

 

[Tom A]

Till very recently, we had 24-hr bus lanes, with cameras but there was no 24-hr bus services to use them & the bus companiess were resisting pressure to introduce them

There are still no 24 hr services on those lanes but they have eventually adjusted the hours of operation.

As I recall cars are allowed to use the Stockport Road bus lanes at off peak times.

 

[pogofish]

Bus lanes are there for a good reason. If you're not a bus or a cyclist, stay out of 'em.

Bus companies here are getting bikes banned from their bus lanes in the central area sometime fairly soon. They lost a direct attempt in court but are getting a ban via the back-door when the pedestrianation plans start in all the bus lanes that run through the pedestrian areas.

Even non-fossil fuel taxis have been confined to the beach promenade zone as well, thanks to the combined efforts of the bus cos & traditional taxi firms.

 

[milesy]

introduce incentives to car pool

car pooling's a geat idea. you could even get really big cars that carry *loads* of people, and all club together and pay for someone to drive the huge big car around taking people wherever they need to go. you could even have a "car pool" network around town, so you could take one to one place, hop oout and then get on another and go somewhere else

 

[pogofish]

When you watched the bus sail past you, with all those empty seats, were you not tempted to try leaving your car at home another time?

Not when it means pouring more cash in to the pockets of First Bus or Stagecoach, who are trying to eliminate the competition here, including all forms of alternative transport as well.

No problem with bus lanes/diverse PT systems in principle but where it is done in support of companies who have no concept of public service or commitment to anything other than profit at our expense - the highest urban bus fares in the UK are here too!

 

[magneze]

car pooling's a geat idea. you could even get really big cars that carry *loads* of people, and all club together and pay for someone to drive the huge big car around taking people wherever they need to go. you could even have a "car pool" network around town, so you could take one to one place, hop oout and then get on another and go somewhere else

Maybe a car pool lane would be a good idea.

 

[milesy]

Magneze is thinking outside the box

 

[tarannau]

The worst is when one of th sods sticks their thumb out the window and expects to be let straight out into the other lane - not on my watch - wait for a gap.......

That's because buses have priority on the roads, not some cheeky movement designed to piss you off. If it's safe, you should let them out. A quick reminder from the Highway Code for you:

198: Buses, coaches and trams. Give priority to these vehicles when you can do so safely, especially when they signal to pull away from stops. Look out for people getting off a bus or tram and crossing the road.

 

[Wolveryeti]

fuck sake, whatever next!

driving down a chocker block road, in a bit of a rush so nipped down the EMPTY bus lane just to be greeted by this little fucking smart car behind a bush with a cctv camera on the roof.

Cry me a river. 30 people using a less polluting mode of transport should always have more priority than one.

Next time, be a man and at least try and ram the ridiculous Noddy car off the road.

 

[WouldBe]

i've seen many a completely empty 42 follow each other down wilmslow road.

how econonical and 'green' is that!

If you had 40 passengers on each bus that could be 80 cars that don't need to be on the road.

How economical and green is that.

 

[Cobbles]

When you watched the bus sail past you, with all those empty seats, were you not tempted to try leaving your car at home another time?

As soon as they start to run buses that have full climate control plus opening windows through which to puff Havana smoke from the comfort of a properly designed adjustable leather seat that allows you to bask in the ambience of whatever music or silence you prefer then I just might be tempted to use them, but only if they arrive and depart exatcly where and when I want them.

 

[Crispy]

As soon as they start to run buses that have full climate control plus opening windows through which to puff Havana smoke from the comfort of a properly designed adjustable leather seat that allows you to bask in the ambience of whatever music or silence you prefer then I just might be tempted to use them, but only if they arrive and depart exatcly where and when I want them.

Does your car suck your cock too?

 

[Cobbles]

Does your car suck your cock too?

Unlike the spartan chav filled interior of a bus, there's so much functionality in the interior of my car that I may have overlooked this feature - I'll dig out the manual sometime and have a look.

 

[Cobbles]

That's because buses have priority on the roads, not some cheeky movement designed to piss you off. If it's safe, you should let them out. A quick reminder from the Highway Code for you:

Only emergency services vehicles sounding a warning tone have priority, the item from the Highway code regarding "letting buses out" is qualified by safety considerations and isn't backed up by any Legislative compulsion (or logic) so I choose to ignore it.

 

[chio]

You could ring up the MEN and see if they'll do a "man breaks law, is caught outrage" front page for the morning.

it's either that or "here's a big picture of someone attractive off corrie, spotted in, erm, the city she lives in" most days

 

[Radar]

Only emergency services vehicles sounding a warning tone have priority, the item from the Highway code regarding "letting buses out" is qualified by safety considerations and isn't backed up by any Legislative compulsion (or logic) so I choose to ignore it.

The rationale is don't be a selfish git and think of others, but then you really didn't need to be told that, did you ?

Getting bored under that there bridge ?

 

[Radar]

Unlike the spartan chav filled interior of a bus, there's so much functionality in the interior of my car that I may have overlooked this feature - I'll dig out the manual sometime and have a look.

See you need to campaign for a first class carriage on the bus. You could have your leather armchair, glass of Cognac and varied shitty sticks to beat the proles back onto the roof.

Top ho, what ?

 

[magneze]

The latest buses do have air con. Bit bloody noisy though.

 

[Orang Utan]

See you need to campaign for a first class carriage on the bus. You could have your leather armchair, glass of Cognac and varied shitty sticks to beat the proles back onto the roof.

Top ho, what ?

Didn't Chris Rea design a private train compartment that enabled the passenger to have complete comfort and privacy? The cost was prohibitive and it was completely impractical of course.

 

[Poot]

If one thing irks me more than people who don't let buses out, it's people who drive in the bus lane. You're not special, so have some consideration for the people who are actually willing to travel in discomfort for the sake of the environment.