Discussion in 'festivals' started by Boycey, Feb 19, 2015.
Been to a few build meetings, bought tickets last night... We're on. Sunray ? paolo ? Anyone else?
I have tickets
Coming to the Burning Pub tonight? Meet some Burners.
Jealous x infinity
Busy tonight but I daresay there will be more burning pub before the big day and before we load up the container for shipping ( ). Would certainly be good to talk to some people.
I heard someone refer to BM as "Burno"
I wish I was going tbh
Burning Pub is on the 3rd Thursday of every month throughout the year. Miller Pub SE1.
Kinnell, that place (as it looks now, anyway) is a new feature in that street since I left London in 2008/since I stopped visiting the area of my late parents last year .....
New pub any good? </offtopic >
Its been like it for some time William, its OK as pubs go? Some nice ales and craft ales on.
Did nice pizzas till recently, switched to burgers which aren't as good.
Has anyone tried the organised camp experience? I heard its full of really well set up camps that are $800+ to get in with things like private toilets and ready to eat food.
These camps have caused some ire because they are piggybacking of the work and gifting of others. They have been relegated to the outer edge this year.
Remember everything you see and do at the Burning Man is put on by ticket holders and not the Burning Man. The BM org provide toilets, the Man, Artictica (ice) and the layout. This is all they do. Everything and I really mean every bit of art, all the sound camps and every bit of interesting creativity is put on by normal ticket holders.
Some camp that provides for its members at a huge cost and therefore profit and not for others can go fuck themselves IMO.
so i'm leaving for this tomorrow.
3 days in san francisco, 2 days or so in sacramento, however many days on site (a fucking alkali desert) building shit, a week partying, a day taking down then... and then and then....
what the fuck was i thinking?
stay safe now
It looks amazing mate, I bet you have an unforgettable time!
Wow, so Boyce what are you making? everything I've seen looks nuts
I'm sure Sunray will look after you
we're running a sister camp with the guys doing the "british pub", so we're making the pub garden including 3m tall picnic bench out of scaff planks... what the fuck was i thinking?
no, it's going to be awesome. i've never even been to the states before.
well that's on hell of an introduction (me neither and ill probably do the boring thing and go to NY first) I think you'll love it, I'm jealous and would never have the guts myself. It looks amazing
Have fun mate
changed its name I think - been there for ages - cant remember what it used to be called - has had half a refit - used to be full of drunk doctors and nurses (in the shadow of Guys) and other students... always found it rammed and noisy but theres a time and place for it. Not sure when though. When trains at London Bridge dont run is one time.
Burning Pub cracks me up though. I like to think the South London version of epic festival in a US desert = a monthly trip down the pub
Have a wonderful time Boycey - sure you will x
ADVENTUREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE of course ...Enjoy!
United Straights mate. Nothing ever happens there
Lots of people chill out that bit too much at Burning Man tho', I'm told/lied to
Boycey : Nice 'n representative place, BM**, to pick up on the US 'average' !
**Or even Calif/far West more widely -- enjoy it all man!
me and a fuck ton of friends have pencilled in burning man for 2017..... so if anyone wants to give me a heads up on organising going it'd be very appreciated.
What ale, or 'ale', is likely to be stocked in the desert?
Could be a bit problematic from a CAMRA-approval POV
Still want to go to BM one day.
Still think I'd end up murdering a lot of people there.
There is that... Apparently there are an ample number of camps diametrically opposed to the California stereotype of quinoa yogurt weaving namaste bullshit that I don't have to worry.
I'll try and post a more in depth summation of my experiences at some point but against my early predictions of "once for the experience" i really hope this becomes a year in year out trip.
There is a definite sense of unfinished project for me....
yep, in droves.
so, some thoughts on BM-
decommodification/the gift economy/radical self reliance really rules how the event works, you can't buy anything, people will walk up and give you stuff randomly (lights, beers, lemonade, plane rides...). it took me a bit to really get it- people would give me things and i'd try to return the favour, that's not how it works. people just give stuff away, alcohol is available pretty much 24-7 at all ends of site, food is given away from a good few camps at particular times. by friday i made sure i made it to the weiner zoo to get a hotdog as our camp's chef was hugely put upon due to poor organisation within our camp.
people help each out there far more than any festival i've been a part of in the UK: food, drink, shelter, the other things get shared freely, neighbouring camps help each other out if there's a need for tools or physical work to get something done. fuck, i'm posting this from a flat in south SF that a guy i met there is letting me stay in. the generosity there is a huge part of it.
it's fucking massive as in, really really fucking big. a bicycle is essential, getting on art cars is pretty easy but you lose control of where you're going (not necessarily a bad thing). i'm not sure if the site is larger than glastonbury? googling isn't helping much, glastonbury claims "over 900 acres in the Vale of Avalon", meanwhile at BM "The operations associated with the event occupy about 4,400 acres of public land" though it's unclear if this is the limits of the trash fence or further afield. the result is that there is never a crowd that feels crushed, i really liked the sparseness.
fucktons of LEDs and EL wire illuminate the playa. it's hard to imagine what the place looked like before they were prevalent. i should have brought more, for myself and the for the camp in general. seeing as there is no site power and no kind of centralised lighting set up it's a very good idea to light yourself up like a christmas tree so you can be found in crowds by mates and to avoid being hit by bicycles and art cars.
as a sound system geek i was treated to vast arrays of (some pretty fucking decent sounding) DIY rigs as well as the d&b line arrays and purple boxes. i had no complaints and it was good to hear some of the more exotic BFM designs as well as unity horns other weird designs hold their own. one of the best rigs was camp question mark's, labelled "pk". may have been rebranded for the hire firm? or has the ex-poster moved to california and set up a huge sound hire company? i missed major lazer play there but caught mimosa and gas lamp killer. the bass was ridiculous.
the less desirable aspects of BM are spoken about far more than you actually experience them while in attendance. i saw a single shirtcocker. i didn't knowingly meet a single apple-exec, or susan sarandon, or ruby wax. the dickhead who set up the 'sleb camp last year is no longer on the board of directors, i don't know if they were placed this year... from what i hear the larger art cars are often funded by super rich angel investors, if anyone reading this wants to fund me to build a massive truck that shoots fireballs, has a dance floor for 20+ and has a 20kW sound system i can base it on whatever youtube animation you like.
^not my pic but i danced in front of this thing while another car that had some 9 flamethrowers you could jump on and play with was next to it. i had a go. it was awesome.
there's a load of pics materialising on my farcebook at the mo, making me look forward to next year and doing it better...
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