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Burial- Untrue

anyone who bought a vinyl copy which has surface noise on the right channel, you can get a new copy from hyperdub if you take it back to the record store you got it from. email [email protected] n tell em where you bought it, they're gonna make shiny new non-hissy plates.

as for me, i love it. especially 'near dark'... and all them beatless bits, endorphin, in mcdonalds... still it has contenders for dubstep album of the year though, as anyone else heard Underwater Dancehall by Pinch? it's great.
 
Dubversion said:
read a review of the Pinch album, sounds a bit 'nice' somehow.. i'll give it a shot, like..
I bought it at the same time. It's a bit limp, IMO.
Feel ripped off.
The vocals distract, some are ok, some not so good, none struck me as particularly good. The instrumentals are better, but for me the stand-out track was Qawwali, which has been around for a long time already.
Need to listen to it again though, cos I only gave it a once-through due to Untrue begging to be played.
 
firky said:
ck said:
:confused: Do you have to train to be such a philistine or is it a natural thing?

I wasn't trying to be , no. I just find it so natural to accept that someone who makes music like this would not exactly bound through life trying to promote themselves at every given chance.
 
re: Pinch, yeah that's the thing, the instrumentals stand up on their own if you cant stand the 'nice' (admittedly) vocals

Dub you will definitely prefer the instrumental version

i have to say i do like the vocal of Qawwali though, or Brighter Day as it's now called
 
Am giving Untrue a listen right now. It rates as highly on my shrug-o-meter as the last one. It's good, as in, I can appreciate the quality, but it leaves me totally cold. And the processing on the vocals is really annoying.
 
Rogue said:
And what themes are they? The contemporary British culture of happy slapping and chavs and mass media and X factor and Facebook? I just don't see it.......

or do you mean some kind of broader theme of disaffected youth or something? Hardly a contemporary thing.

I'd really like to believe you because I like the idea that music in some way can be representational of culture but at present our culture tends to be very very disparate. I'm not sure Burial is anything except for niche.

What a bizarre series of comments :confused:

How is contemporary music, whatever it may be, unrepresentational of culture? Culture is culture is culture. 17th Century music is representative of 17th Century culture.

Stepping aside your obvious snobbery towards what you perceive to be popular culture/youth culture (and quite clearly beneath your lofty standards), yes, I'd say Burial is saying stuff exactly about the kids on the bus playing tunes from their phones (as just one example). It's not a happy album y'know, it's not suggesting they're happy; it's an album of environments of paranoia and pain. Alienation, if you prefer. But it still has something weirdly hopeful about it. It is this aspect that I think sets it apart in terms of accuracy; it's not like, I dunno, Radiohead, wittering on about bourgeois liberal guilt, for example. It's about a more visceral, daily, experience.

My take on it anyway.
 
Just heard this for this the first time tonight... it's fucking superb, innit :)

Apart from the other Burial stuff, who else should I check out if I like this?
 
May Kasahara said:
Am giving Untrue a listen right now. It rates as highly on my shrug-o-meter as the last one. It's good, as in, I can appreciate the quality, but it leaves me totally cold. And the processing on the vocals is really annoying.

I agree :)
 
Maybe it's a London thing... makes us feel like we're all cool and that for living the 'post apocalyptic soundscape dream', man.

Beyond that, I'm staggered by how good it is.
 
I dunno, I'm an East Londoner and can relate to the feel of it. It's just that for me it's musically nothing that interesting. It doesn't compare to some of the great 'dance artists' of the past like Massive Attack or DJ Shadow circa Endtroducing.
 
Dubversion said:
"coffeestep" very good :)

wrong, but very good


Burial are far more interesting than you're implying - really unsettling in places

Nah, Massive Attack, on their first three albums, were infinitely more interesting.
 
Actually, that sounded dismissive of Massive Attack.. they're probably equally fantastic, it's just that burial is reasonably new to me so a bit fresher.
 
OK, I gave it another listen. It's good. It's just... I dunno, for me it lacks that something distinctive. It's like a very classy example of its genre rather than being particularly different or groundbreaking. All IMVHO of course :)
 
From what I've heard, Archangel is by far the best track. Those processed vocals are what makes Burial different.
I'm still not sure whether I like him or not, though I can appreciate why people love it and I do I like how his music polarises people. His music still makes me feel like an idiot at an art exhibition surrounded by boffs raving about a painting that just looks nice but everyone has told me means so much more
 
dweller said:
massive attack,
burial,

more music for philosophy student parties ;)


I'm sure they cry hot tears of shame at having taken their music to a wider audience. The indignity of it all.
 
Well I gave this album a listen last night based on the reviews in this thread, I have to say i'm rather impressed, Archangel was the best tune on there, that one touched me the most. I also had a read of a couple of interviews with him, I must confess I had no idea about his secrecy as I don't read the music press i'd only heard his music. He seams like a very passionate and intelligent bloke, why I don't doubt that he genuinely dislikes being the centre of attention I also think he's used it to his advantage extremely well, and why not? In a world where more people are making music than ever before and who all have a platform on myspace and facebook you need something different to get your music noticed and he's done the ultimate thing by stepping away from it all, over hyped? probably, but he's certainly a talented producer, good luck to him I say.
 
I've given both albums a listen now and neither of them does a lot for me - there's some dark, spooky-sounding things going on that appeal a bit but nothing really grabs me.

I'll give 'em a bit more time yet, mind. It sounds like the sort of thing that might grow after a bit.
 
Orang Utan said:
His music still makes me feel like an idiot at an art exhibition surrounded by boffs raving about a painting that just looks nice but everyone has told me means so much more


No it doesn't, it makes you want to dismiss it on bulletin boards in order to look cool.
 
I recommend Mary Ann Hobbs show right now because there is a great mix or Burial tracks and a lot of other dubstep type mixes that are great.
 
Just catching up on all of this.

Heard a clip of Archangel on an R1 podcast the other day... though "ooh that sounds good", then promptly forgot all about.

Now today, I've been doing a bit of a general music "get meself up to date". And in my to-listen-to pile was Untrue. What I nice little surprise.

I'm not normally into breaks, but I am a big sucker for big sweeping harmonies, and ethereal "twiddling"... so this is doing it for me so far. The production is frankly rough as nails (and it doesn't sound like that's by design) but the music is still great. I can see this staying on the iPod for a fair bit. :cool:

Now - by the sounds of things - I just need to check out the previous stuff.
 
poului said:
No it doesn't, it makes you want to dismiss it on bulletin boards in order to look cool.
Oh fuck off. You don't really think that do you? I find it insulting that you think I might be pretending to have an opinion about something cos I think it's cool. I'm underwhelmed, and that's my honest opinion.
 
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