Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
I know who it is too
Burial- Untrue
- Thread starter perplexis
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ck said:
I saw it reviewed in the metro this morning. The first album was one of Observer music monthly's albums of the year - loads of the staff had it in their top 5 or whatever.
A lot of word of mouth yes I suppose but there is a lot of hype surrounding burial if only for the reason he's shrouded in mystery.
Rogue said:
Really?
Does anyone who's genuinely into the music give a flying fuck who he might be? I'm not in the least bit interested- I want to hear his records, yeah, sure I'd like to watch him play if he ever played live, but it's not like his identity is is even remotely relevant to the quality of his music.
Anyone who thinks otherwise would be better off sticking to manufactured pop music.
Seriously- who's line of reasoning is "Ooooo, he's dead mysterious he is that Burial guy, he must be aces"???
edit: Untrue is a fucking genius album, and a grower at that. Etched Headplate is an unbelievable tune.
ouchmonkey
Singe Gainsbourg
perplexis said:
Really?
Does anyone who's genuinely into the music give a flying fuck who he might be? I'm not in the least bit interested- it's not like his identity is is even remotely relevant to the quality of his music.
Anyone who thinks otherwise would be better off sticking to manufactured pop music.
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what a curious inversion.
it's in manufactured pop where authorial intent or personality has no bearing on the sound. where one guy is doing everything then you would hope their personality and experience informs the work.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
It's all lies. He's not even from South London, he lives in Essex and is a famous comedian/non-user of swimming pools/fister. He got into electronic music after befriending a musician on a reality TV show, who showed him the delights of Detroit techno, drum n bass and garage.Rogue said:
ouchmonkey
Singe Gainsbourg
Orang Utan said:
I didn't know you lived in Essex.
you poor sod
perplexis said:
Really?
Does anyone who's genuinely into the music give a flying fuck who he might be? I'm not in the least bit interested- I want to hear his records, yeah, sure I'd like to watch him play if he ever played live, but it's not like his identity is is even remotely relevant to the quality of his music.
Anyone who thinks otherwise would be better off sticking to manufactured pop music.
Seriously- who's line of reasoning is "Ooooo, he's dead mysterious he is that Burial guy, he must be aces"???
edit: Untrue is a fucking genius album, and a grower at that. Etched Headplate is an unbelievable tune.
It's not relevant to the quality of his music of course but we were talking about the hype weren't we?
You can't deny that his anonymity contributes to the hype that surrounds him. It gives something journalists to latch on to. People are always looking for something different. You know, its this guy who makes this deep haunting music and he's shrouded in secrecy. It's even more amazing now that he has made a name for himself. This kind of thing contributes to 'hype' imo.
Yeah, but I think you're misinterpreting what I'm trying to say. Of course I don't think that the musician should have no bearing on their music, that is (even by my usual obtuse standards) a fairly bizarre idea.ouchmonkey said:
It's just that I don't really care about the lives of the people who make the music I like. Even if they choose to bare their souls to their public and write the most intimate songs about themselves and their experience I still don't care who they are.
I probably wouldn't recognise any of the musicians I most admire if I crossed them on the street (apart from the dead ones, whom I am rather unlikely to cross!), and I don't feel that what they share with me gives me the right to know anything about them other than that which they put there.
In a way this may be perverse, but I'm interested in their art, their creation, on which their personality necessarily has a bearing, but the personality itself isn't interesting unless it does something- does personality sound good? Does it make me feel? Does it communicate with me? Someone can have the most fascinatingly tortured soul, but if they have no means of expressing it, then of what interest can it ever be to the public?
Yeah, I can follow this line of reasoning, but I don't really read any music press so I never feel overly corrupted by itRogue said:
TBH, even he turns out to be Stock, Aitken & Waterman I'm not going to be that fussed because I like the music.
Dubstepforum always press this atists flanels...
Guardian blow bubbles up into burials soda bottle.
And every grim ridden Garage Gerf has a claim to Burials banjo sample..
Burial is hype..
You dont have to belive it!!!
Burial Burial was the lick..
Burial Untrue, part two! is a follow up. Second release...
Tis good, but never as good as the first hit..
Any addict will tell you that...
Guardian blow bubbles up into burials soda bottle.
And every grim ridden Garage Gerf has a claim to Burials banjo sample..
Burial is hype..
You dont have to belive it!!!
Burial Burial was the lick..
Burial Untrue, part two! is a follow up. Second release...
Tis good, but never as good as the first hit..
Any addict will tell you that...
perplexis said:Yeah, I can follow this line of reasoning, but I don't really read any music press so I never feel overly corrupted by it
TBH, even he turns out to be Stock, Aitken & Waterman I'm not going to be that fussed because I like the music.
I don't tend to read that much music press either but I will admit I find Burial and his anonymity endlessly fascinating.
It might just be load of bollocks as Orang suggests.
However simple questions like.
Is Burial really media shy and prefers to let the music speak for itself or is his secrecy the height of arrogance? Does he think he is so good that he doesn't have to go out and promote his own music or his is genuinely ambivalent to the music business as a whole?
I think his persona or lack of it is really interesting given our culture of self promotion - myspace etc etc.
I can't disagree with this- it is interesting that he sets himself outside of the music business machine. I don't really see why this is used as stick to beat him with though- to my mind anyone who can avoid getting caught up in the self-promotion side of it deserves some respect for just getting on with it and doing their thing.Rogue said:
sir.clip said:
bollocks. and gibberish to boot
reacting against something because of its hype seems to me to be almost as pointless as reacting well to something because of its hype. I can see why it might get a bit annoying if you don't think its deserved, but at the end of the day you have to judge the music on the music.
For what its worth I think the new album is superb. It is more of the same, but I think I'm actually enjoying it more than the first one, which can only be a good thing.
oh and dub- you stole my tagline!
For what its worth I think the new album is superb. It is more of the same, but I think I'm actually enjoying it more than the first one, which can only be a good thing.
oh and dub- you stole my tagline!
i listened to it about 2 weeks before it came out thanks.
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