ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Peet said:
Intention is not action. You're indulging (unsurprisingly) in standard petty name-calling.
Grow up.
Brutality in Gaza
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Intention is not action. You're indulging (unsurprisingly) in standard petty name-calling.
Grow up.
peet;
I imagine they all sit around together discussing genocidal racist Zionist thugs.
No, it's a quarter century old and unsigned.
Of course, folk could always trundle out the ' Protocols of the Elders of Zion ' if you insist.
You ought to be studying modern Hamas philosophy, pet.
I imagine they all sit around together discussing genocidal racist Zionist thugs.
No, it's a quarter century old and unsigned.
Of course, folk could always trundle out the ' Protocols of the Elders of Zion ' if you insist.
You ought to be studying modern Hamas philosophy, pet.
nino_savatte
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Peet said:
Qualify that question, if you would be so kind.
I noticed that the Israeli response has been quite clever to the infighting...essentially putting the onus of responsibility of the re-instatement of the peace process and Palestinian stability back on Abbas by saying that it is impossible to deal with him until he gets a controm of the situ.
Well, that's all well and good, but fatah are in an impossible situation and it really ought to be incumbent on the Israeli parliament to grant Abbas verious forms of assistance to help his impoverished authority take a hold.
In all honesty, I think thay Israel is rubbing its hands at the way the palestinians are tearing eachother apart...it makes the palestinians look really bad on the world stage, which is a bonus, and of course it could possibly lead to what many people in Israeli politics would secretly like...for the Palestinian nation to implode and destroy itself.
But I do disagree with those that say it's a zioniest conspiracy...this goes too far and is not based on fact.
Well, that's all well and good, but fatah are in an impossible situation and it really ought to be incumbent on the Israeli parliament to grant Abbas verious forms of assistance to help his impoverished authority take a hold.
In all honesty, I think thay Israel is rubbing its hands at the way the palestinians are tearing eachother apart...it makes the palestinians look really bad on the world stage, which is a bonus, and of course it could possibly lead to what many people in Israeli politics would secretly like...for the Palestinian nation to implode and destroy itself.
But I do disagree with those that say it's a zioniest conspiracy...this goes too far and is not based on fact.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Pete the Greek said:
No-one on this thread has actually said that though, so your point is so innocuous as to be verging on lunacy.
last time I checked PTP, every group is brutal or has been brutal in the past.PartTimePongo said:
For example, the US alone spends >50% of the entire worlds military budget. They aren't spending that kind of money to be nice.
ViolentPanda said:
bit extreme
was refering to Moono's stance.
Never mind.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Pete the Greek said:
bit extreme
was refering to Moono's stance.
Never mind.
But I DO mind.
I'm sick of people noodling along here and casually throwing accusations around that have no foundation, or are based at the very least on an extremely biased and/or misconceived view of events and history.
I expect this sort of behaviour from people like warren, who hasn't proven himself able to produce an original thought in all his 200+ posts, or from Rachamim, who's so partisan he probably wears Israeli flag boxers, but not from people with half a brain, or people who don't own a "second home" in a settlement in the Occupied Territories. I expect them to engage their brains.
Detroit City said:
I must have missed when they put the US Military on the "Terrorist" list
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Peet said:
But that's part of the diffference between 'moderates' and 'extremists'. The passion.
ViolentPanda said:
I have family who have had their homes robbed by foreign occupiers in recent memory, in a land not too far away from Israel...but I don't run around whinging and complaining and complicitly supporting acts of terror VP. I don't see the validity in lending support to groups that advocate violence. So why do you have such a soft line towards those that do and use your invective purely for Israel?
bendeus said:
I'm not sure where you got that from buddy. Why would I be happy with violence against innocents, and what have I said to give you that idea?
I'm a little bemused
bendeus said:
ok, so my post above that reads: "I noticed that the Israeli response has been quite clever to the infighting...essentially putting the onus of responsibility of the re-instatement of the peace process and Palestinian stability back on Abbas by saying that it is impossible to deal with him until he gets a controm of the situ.
Well, that's all well and good, but fatah are in an impossible situation and it really ought to be incumbent on the Israeli parliament to grant Abbas verious forms of assistance to help his impoverished authority take a hold.
In all honesty, I think thay Israel is rubbing its hands at the way the palestinians are tearing eachother apart...it makes the palestinians look really bad on the world stage, which is a bonus, and of course it could possibly lead to what many people in Israeli politics would secretly like...for the Palestinian nation to implode and destroy itself.
But I do disagree with those that say it's a zioniest conspiracy...this goes too far and is not based on fact." is evidence of what a nasty right wing, Israeli military supporting, callous bastard I am?
Hmmm.
Would you mind quoting me in order to back up your statement that I like to see Israeli soldiers shoot kids?
Or are you unable to do so because you've made fundamentally flawed assumptions on my opinions?
bendeus
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Pete the Greek said:
Pete,
I'm not basing my opinions of your opinions on the last thread, mate.
You are fairly strident and outspoken in your opinions on this forum, and have been for a good while. I tend to lurk rather than contribute and as such have read a number of your opinions over the last few months, that's all.
And no, I'm not going to trawl through your posts of the last year or so to back myself up. It's too late, and I'm too pissed. I don't really need to though, do I?
You appear to *generally* agree that Israel has the right to "defend itself".
Ergo: you feel that the collateral damage caused by the IOF in 'defending itself', regardless of whether the 'defence' takes an offensive form - such as the repeated invasion of another's territory - is justifiable.
It is axiomatic that many die in these 'incursions'.
Therefore, IMO, you view the grisly results of such state-sponsored terror as somehow being more acceptable than those of non-state sponsored organisations.
Oh, and have I said you like to see Israeli soldiers shoot kids?
Don't bother trying to stick such words in my mouth, please.
Ta
bendeus said:
whatever you're drinking, it's clearer stronger than what I'm on. Wanna exchange on of your whisky tumblers for one of my buds?
bendeus said:
It's hilarious! You've made sweeping judgements and assumptions on what I think about the ME situ and my views on the moral rights of Israeli incursions which are entirely baseless....and then you finish your nonsensical tirade with the classic telling off "don't put words in my mouth"
!!!
My name aint Kettle, I aint black, so fuck off potsy.
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Pete the Greek said:
No, fuck you fucko.
Look back upon your risible attempt at discourse. When, exactly, did I say that you 'like' (very different to 'accept', I'm sure you'll agree) to see Israeli soldiers 'shoot kids' (also very different to 'attack civilian targets')?
You're not very good at this, are you?
I don't need to make assumptions regarding what you feel about the 'ME situ', It's there in black and white (and black and white, and black and white) endlessly for all to see. You're a low-grade apologist for Israeli state terror. Always have been, always will. I am, of course, always willing to be proven wrong, and naturally I would be more than happy to realise that you are far more than a low-grade, Hobbesian bellend, who is seemingly unable to understand that states and their proxies can behave just as badly as terrorists and theirs.
Night
nino_savatte said:
Never mind the US, why should Israel talk to those who want to exterminate their citizens?
I know that all you will say is that I'm stalking you, you being such an idiot, but I'm nevertheless very interested in what the answer to that question might be.
Have you got an answer, nino?
yeah, nighty night.
Lock&Light said:
Nino's got an answer for everything mate. Usually starts with abuse, has a bit of random arrogance and sniping in the middle and ends of with some good old fashioned abuse.
He's a great lad is Nino. Bless him.
ViolentPanda said:
I'm sad to see that you are showing signs of dementia, VP.
I once had some respect for your inteligence, if not for your conclusions.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Pete the Greek said:
Catch yourself on.
Most people think L&L's a nuisance and here you are giving him the time of day.
nino_savatte
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Lock&Light said:
You've popped up, once again, to snipe. Why shouldn't Israel talk to Hamas? Perhaps you want to see the cycle of violence continue?
So what would have happened if the British government had never opened a dialogue with the Republican movement? In your haste to make a cheap shot, you overlooked that just to get a dig in.
Oh and you're still following me around, despite being told not to. A reply to this post will be reported.
nino_savatte said:
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
PartTimePongo said:
See ya, wouldn't want to be ya!
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