i think in some circles he's one of those ones that just gets a knee-jerk slating, regardless of his musical output. like, music for salesmen, shuhuh..
are you levelling that suggestion at any one here?

i think in some circles he's one of those ones that just gets a knee-jerk slating, regardless of his musical output. like, music for salesmen, shuhuh..

Probably me. It's well-known that I actually like his music, but have just taken it on myself to pretend not to like him because of his neck muscles and the way the veins on his temples stand out when he sings.are you levelling that suggestion at any one here?![]()
Bruce was absolutely cracking up til, and including, Born In The USA. I reckon everyone would still rate BitU as a cracker if it weren't for the fact that Reagan tried to appropriate the title song for himself during his 84 re-election campaign. the fact that he obviously hadn't bothered listening to the track, or realising it was deeply anti-everything he stood for, was rather lost on him. And plenty of other dumber americans (and others) who only ever heard the title.
My Hometown, Downbound Train, Working on the Highway, not to mention I'm On Fire would all ensure the album took its place in the pantheon of greatness, were it not for Ronnie.

Where did you see him play?rThe Cramps were theatrical and they were great, it's just a different kind of theatrical from Springsteen, which I found sweaty and workmanlike but lacking style or excitement. Just a lot of grunting
Downbound train is great. I was gazing at Born in the USA in HMV yesterday and wondering if I could afford to spend £5... I still think the LP suffers from the booming riffing synths though on some songs. Would have been better with them turned down/off and replaced by guitars. Sadly Bruce has never asked me for production advice![]()
Where did you see him play?

Where did you see him play?
Numerous TV concerts
off the top of me head, aren't the synths only on Dancing in the Dark? (e2a: no, are they fuck)
I agree it could do without them,. Still a cracking song tho.

TV concerts are TV concerts, not real. Who'd say they saw Nirvana just cos they got a video of them on 'Unplugged'?
I never saw Otis Redding at Monterey, but I feel qualified to say it looked fucking amazing based on the footage I've seen.
I like "the river".
Nah, Tom Petty. He just never really made it over here though.
damn, so close. I had a bet with meself you were gonna say Hendrix. Not far off.
Anyone you didn't like beforehand whose stage show looked impressive on TV? i honestly can't think of one
Also, pretty much all the Bruce 'shows' I've seen on TV - including the 'classic' one - are actually studio gigs, not proper live ones. Which tend to be rather different.
You're surely not arguing that watching a gig on TV adds up to anything like the real thing are you?Numerous TV concerts, especially that "classic" they were always wheeling out on BBC2 from the E Street Band at their "peak" - so feel free to explain you can't possibly "get it" if you weren't there
So. your argument is the best recreation our recording tecnology has to offer of what an event was like is no help in making a value judgement on it at all?
...yeah but you had to be there when they were actually mixing the record to really get it man...
are you levelling that suggestion at any one here?![]()

Probably me. It's well-known that I actually like his music, but have just taken it on myself to pretend not to like him because of his neck muscles and the way the veins on his temples stand out when he sings.
of course, it's not the same as the live experience but I still think you can make a reasonably educated guess about whether you'd have enjoyed it or not.
You've used the same argument against people that weren't at Glastonbury but thought it looked shit from the TV coverage. You can't have it both ways.
consistency is for bores.

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It's a bit of an anticlimax tbf.![]()


don't be daft. The argument is that a TV experience is a very very different one from the live one. It might be the 'best recreation' possible, but that doesn't mean it is particularly good (or bad, or anything else). It's different.
Your attempt at an analogy with the recording process is just silly.

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It's a bit of an anticlimax tbf.![]()