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Brown less popular than Chamberlain

You what?

btw - are you going to expand on your claim that there will not be another general election (because of europe or something).

You what?

OK..

Thatcher. Right wing.
Thatcher. Right wing.
Tharcher. Right wing.
Major. Right wing.
Tony Blair (New Labour - presented as right wing, anti-socialist)
Tony Blair (New Labour - presented as right wing, anti-socialist)
Tony Blair (New Labour - presented as right wing, anti-socialist)

Like it or not, the masses aren't socialist, marxist or anything else like it.

So how do we get a marxist or socialist government if the British masses won't have it?

You get into government with a capitalist ticket, fuck the people the arse with corrupt and perverted capitalism until they scream with pain and then in the mean time, sign up for the EU by the back door, bringing in as many *ECONOMIC MIGRANTS* as possible, because *ECONOMIC MIGRANTS* ONLY care about making money.

They ain't going to set themselves alight on the streets, because the government gave away our democracy to a mainly socialist Europe now are they?

Iraq? Afghanistan?

You have to keep the troops out of the country if you are going to make sure that the country is handed over to Europe without a fight. Give the soldiers fuck all in human rights, while giving the police unprecedented powers.

There. I've laid my cards on the table. But I don't seriously believe that we will have another British general election and if we did, the politicians will be doing ONE thing. Re-arranging the power structure to facilitate European regions and fuck all else.
 
You what?

OK..

Thatcher. Right wing.
Thatcher. Right wing.
Tharcher. Right wing.
Major. Right wing.
Tony Blair (New Labour - presented as right wing, anti-socialist)
Tony Blair (New Labour - presented as right wing, anti-socialist)
Tony Blair (New Labour - presented as right wing, anti-socialist)

Like it or not, the masses aren't socialist, marxist or anything else like it.

So how do we get a marxist or socialist government if the British masses won't have it?

You get into government with a capitalist ticket, fuck the people the arse with corrupt and perverted capitalism until they scream with pain and then in the mean time, sign up for the EU by the back door, bringing in as many *ECONOMIC MIGRANTS* as possible, because *ECONOMIC MIGRANTS* ONLY care about making money.

They ain't going to set themselves alight on the streets, because the government gave away our democracy to a mainly socialist Europe now are they?

Iraq? Afghanistan?

You have to keep the troops out of the country if you are going to make sure that the country is handed over to Europe without a fight. Give the soldiers fuck all in human rights, while giving the police unprecedented powers.

There. I've laid my cards on the table. But I don't seriously believe that we will have another British general election and if we did, the politicians will be doing ONE thing. Re-arranging the power structure to facilitate European regions and fuck all else.

What was all that waffle beween the opening line and you saying "I don't seriously believe that we will have another British general election"? I think you've just argued yourself out of being taken seriously.
 
You what?

OK..

Thatcher. Right wing.
Thatcher. Right wing.
Tharcher. Right wing.
Major. Right wing.
Tony Blair (New Labour - presented as right wing, anti-socialist)
Tony Blair (New Labour - presented as right wing, anti-socialist)
Tony Blair (New Labour - presented as right wing, anti-socialist)

Like it or not, the masses aren't socialist, marxist or anything else like it.

So how do we get a marxist or socialist government if the British masses won't have it?

You get into government with a capitalist ticket, fuck the people the arse with corrupt and perverted capitalism until they scream with pain and then in the mean time, sign up for the EU by the back door, bringing in as many *ECONOMIC MIGRANTS* as possible, because *ECONOMIC MIGRANTS* ONLY care about making money.

They ain't going to set themselves alight on the streets, because the government gave away our democracy to a mainly socialist Europe now are they?

Iraq? Afghanistan?

You have to keep the troops out of the country if you are going to make sure that the country is handed over to Europe without a fight. Give the soldiers fuck all in human rights, while giving the police unprecedented powers.

There. I've laid my cards on the table. But I don't seriously believe that we will have another British general election and if we did, the politicians will be doing ONE thing. Re-arranging the power structure to facilitate European regions and fuck all else.
What a fucking weirdo you are :D

Conspiraloooooooooooooooon :)
 
There. I've laid my cards on the table. But I don't seriously believe that we will have another British general election and if we did, the politicians will be doing ONE thing. Re-arranging the power structure to facilitate European regions and fuck all else.

I think there's a bit more card-laying to do yet - don't you?
 
I think there's a bit more card-laying to do yet - don't you?
I'd say so. Some of that conspiraloonery is leaning pretty damn far to the right. And I mean waaay right of the Tories. Right even of UKIP.

Have you ever supported any political parties RRB? If so, which ones? Just out of interest.
 
I wonder if this post Blair period for New Labour is similar to the post Thatcher period for the Conservatives. Major et all did not exactly shower themselves with appreciation and Brown also does not seem to be doing this either.

If it were similar then we could expect Brown to win one general election and against Cameron, I think that is possible, then later when his reputation is further damaged by his own visible lack of convictions he could be beaten at the ballot box by a completely new conservative, one with more gravitas than babyfaced Cameron and his cronies.
 
I'd say so. Some of that conspiraloonery is leaning pretty damn far to the right. And I mean waaay right of the Tories. Right even of UKIP.

Have you ever supported any political parties RRB? If so, which ones? Just out of interest.

Nope. I don't support a political party. What the fuck would I want to join a political party for? pfft. That would be plain dumb.

"Hey MI5, I'm one of those people you would want to round up first!!!"
 
Yeah. They used to say that about anyone who believed there was more than meets the eye to the common market.
Yeah, you're right. I'm convinced now. In fact, having pondered upon the indisputable truths thou hast revealed to me, I can think of one and only one solution. We must institute a coup immediately in order to protect the nation's democracy, integrity and traditions, and must run the country for the benefit of the ordinary working folk. Military service will be instituted immediately, along with saluting the flag in schools, swearing oaths to the Queen before taking any public office, immigration will be banned and troublemakers and economic opportunists ejected from the country, and cultural purity laws must be enacted, particularly to protect us from the evil socialist European empire.

Oh, and we will all wear black shirts.
 
What was all that waffle beween the opening line and you saying "I don't seriously believe that we will have another British general election"? I think you've just argued yourself out of being taken seriously.

It's simple. I believe there won't be another general election, but I'm a human being. I'm not a super-being and I can be wrong. If my theory about the governments motives turn out to be correct, but my assumption that there won't be another election turns out to be wrong, then I'm saying that those elected in the next parliament will be concentrating on simply moving the national and local powerbase into the officially declared European regions of Britain.

I'm quite happy to be ridiculed between now and 2009. I hope I'm wrong. :)
 
Yeah, you're right. I'm convinced now. In fact, having pondered upon the indisputable truths thou hast revealed to me, I can think of one and only one solution. We must institute a coup immediately in order to protect the nation's democracy, integrity and traditions, and must run the country for the benefit of the ordinary working folk. Military service will be instituted immediately, along with saluting the flag in schools, swearing oaths to the Queen before taking any public office, immigration will be banned and troublemakers and economic opportunists ejected from the country, and cultural purity laws must be enacted, particularly to protect us from the evil socialist European empire.

Oh, and we will all wear black shirts.

Nah, that would be well naughty. Pulling out of the EU though would be ace. :D
 
I personally think that cameron won't do to well under close scrutiny i just feel he is too lightweight
 
This is the culmination of New Labour - this is the situation which we've had since 1997, only now it's coming to a head and they're not getting away with it anymore.
 
This is the culmination of New Labour - this is the situation which we've had since 1997, only now it's coming to a head and they're not getting away with it anymore.

I still don't quite see what there is to crow about. Who'se the beneficiary of this? What aspect of progressive politics has gained an advantage as a result? What surge to the left is occuring in society as a result? None of their neo-con ideology has been in any way discredited - just a few leading personalities. In that sense they most definatelly are still "getting away with it".

None of the right arguments are being had let alone won. Just like when the Major govt was in trouble towards the end of it's term of office.
 
I wonder if like callaghan brown comes back from the states and is ask about the crisis will he say crisis what crisis lol:D
 
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