Brockwell Park news, festival updates and more...

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by editor, Mar 26, 2012.

  1. Tropi

    Tropi Well-Known Member

    It probably happened to other people as well. I've emailed the Cllrs an the only one that had the decency to reply was Cllr Heywood.
     
  2. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    She's one of the very very few decent councillors who actually try to represent their constituents. So Lambeth Labour obviously didn't like that.
     
  3. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

  4. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    The decision has been put back a couple of days, so no announcement today.
     
  5. hungry_squirrel

    hungry_squirrel Well-Known Member

    Lovebox has been confirmed as Gunnersbury Park now. Honestly, I've got to say I'm pretty disappointed that the NIMBYs have won.
     
  6. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    So anyone who didn't want their local public park handed over to a profit-churning multinational corporate for the majority of the summer can be dismissed out of hand as a NIMBY?
     
  7. clandestino

    clandestino no llevar papel

    Just to add my tuppence to this debate - when Field Day and Lovebox were announced for Brockwell park, I was delighted. I thought - and still do - that London public parks should be used for live music events, even if they're ticketed, and that these kind of events should be part of life in London, and indeed are part of what makes living in London great.

    However, when I saw the footprint for both for Brockwell Park, I changed my mind. They're simply too big to be staged in Brockwell Park, and would be too disruptive. I'm glad Lovebox has found a new home in Gunnersbury Park, and hope Field Day do the same. Long may live music festivals continue in London, but the location has to be right for everyone.
     
    editor likes this.
  8. clandestino

    clandestino no llevar papel

    Gunnersbury Park is 70.96 hectares, Brockwell Park is 50.8. So still a squeeze, but quite a bit more room to play with. Victoria Park which accommodated Field Day comfortably is 86.16 hectares.
     
  9. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

  10. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I'm all for music festivals in London parks although I'm not so keen on them being put on by super-rich multinationals. There also has to be a balance. What was proposed for Brockwell park was too much, with a very real risk that the park could have been fucked up for the Country Show. And that takes precedent over ANY private event
     
  11. clandestino

    clandestino no llevar papel

    Field Day is put on by independent London promoters - I know one of the guys involved. It's a fantastic festival, but even so it's too big for Brockwell Park. I hope they can find somewhere that works for them.
     
  12. hungry_squirrel

    hungry_squirrel Well-Known Member

    Oh come on, we know you've got a bee in your bonnet about the corporate side of things, but that's not really what the complaints are about. I hope that Field Day was used a compromise so that we at least have one festival in the neighbourhood.
     
  13. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I was against Lovebox because it was too big for Brockwell Park and along with all the other planned festivals would have resulted in a large chunk of the park being fenced off for a substantial period in summer, with a chance that the park could have got churned up before the Country Show. I think that the amount of proposed festivals was too much, but I have never been against some events using the park. Now tell me why that makes me a NIMBY?
     
    Smick likes this.
  14. 3Zeros

    3Zeros Well-Known Member

    Field Day is part of Global's festival portfolio. They're the 2nd biggest festival operator in the U.K.
     
  15. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I didn't know that so looked them up. They are indeed huge - they're Europe's largest radio company owning Heart, Capital, Capital XTRA, Classic FM, Smooth, LBC, Radio X and Gold, and their festivals include Festival Number 6, Snowbombing, Snowbombing Canada, South West Four, Field Day, Electric Elephant, Lost Village, Boardmasters, Y Not, Truck, Standon Calling, Rewind, Kendal Calling, Victorious and venue venture Printworks.

    Global.com | Global
     
    Gramsci likes this.
  16. 3Zeros

    3Zeros Well-Known Member

    I mistakenly thought it was a Live Nation event but it seems they partner with them for the ticketing.

    It's certainly not an independent festival by any stretch of the imagination.

    (In the interest of full disclosure I should probably point out I've been to Field Day festival several times!)
     
  17. jimbarkanoodle

    jimbarkanoodle Well-Known Member


    I agree, id of liked it if Lovebox was in my back yard. I think many people would have, especially the younger generation.
     
  18. Nanker Phelge

    Nanker Phelge Monkey Boy

    I am sure lots of people (including me) would like the park used for live music events, but this was way too big and wiped the park out for too long, and that really isn't fair on local residents. There's nothing NIMBY about it. The plan was too ambitious and the implications not thought through enough.

    Blame Lambeth for rushing ahead before thinking.
     
    Smick, Gramsci, colacubes and 2 others like this.
  19. Winot

    Winot I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint

    Yeah agreed.
     
  20. hungry_squirrel

    hungry_squirrel Well-Known Member

    Field Day given the go ahead in Brockwell, so at that's something for the festival goers.
     
  21. alex_

    alex_ Well-Known Member

    wurlycurly likes this.
  22. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

  23. DietCokeGirl

    DietCokeGirl [Your Ad Here]

    It's pretty selfish to be 'happy' about a free, public space being fenced off for the majority of people, just 'cos you can afford a ticket to go. It excludes so many people and the park should be free for everyone to enjoy, especially in and borough where a third of kids are growing up below the poverty line.
     
    Last edited: Jan 31, 2018
  24. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

  25. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

  26. hungry_squirrel

    hungry_squirrel Well-Known Member

    It's selfish to be happy about something? People can choose to spend their money on what they want, there is deprevation in most places in London - are you saying that anyone wanting to go to a park festival is selfish?
     
  27. clandestino

    clandestino no llevar papel

  28. alex_

    alex_ Well-Known Member

    You’ll be able to insure against this - though if you are a major festival promoter you’ll just carry the risk.

    Alex
     
  29. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    And that's the problem: shitty weather at a festival can knock a park out of action for weeks after.
     
  30. jimbarkanoodle

    jimbarkanoodle Well-Known Member

    there is an element of selfishness in your argument too, the anti festival in my back yard one. Believe it or not, there are shit loads of people living in Lambeth who would like a festival on their doorstep to go to, on one weekend of the year, when yes a section of the park will be fenced off to the public, unless you buy a ticket to the event. There will still be space in Brockwell park for you to enjoy yourself if you so wish, or maybe go to one of the many other parks and green spaces in the borough, or perhaps maybe do something else that weekend? If everyone in London had your attitude, there wouldnt be any festivals in the capital anywhere, that wouldnt be much of a fun summer now would it?

    With regards to affording a ticket, im afraid stuff like this simply isn’t free these days (apart from Lambeth Country Show, for now, which coincidentally I see absolutely no one complaining about the noise, litter and general disruption that causes, despite it being far larger than both Lovebox and Field Day in terms of attendance), the world renowned international artists that play these events arent going to do a charity gig for sake of the local community. This isn’t a utopian world where people can throw festivals in a city just for the love of it. Someone has to pay for everything, and im afraid if you want to go to a festival, that person is you.

    For what its worth, thinking about it, I think it’s a fair outcome not allowing Lovebox, but giving Field Day the green light. Lovebox is a behemoth and I was quite surprised when I heard it was due to be held in Brockwell park, given the size and scale of it, so it was kind of taking the piss. Maybe this is a fair compromise to those who like and enjoy going to a festival on a weekend in the summer months, and those who live nearby who don’t want them in their back yard.

    Im assuming you live very close to Brockwell Park, why don’t you try and get a free ticket for Field Day? You might end of having a good time :thumbs:
     
    HelloNBD likes this.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice